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Re: MIG for Cast Iron + Small Welding Table

Posted: Fri Dec 02, 2016 11:07 am
by warmstrong1955
Any reason why you're high centered on making the table from cast iron?
The weld positioners I have been around, small & big, were malleable cast, if they were cast, so fixtures, pieces & parts could be easily tac'd & welded to them. Many had steel tables.

Bill

Re: MIG for Cast Iron + Small Welding Table

Posted: Fri Dec 02, 2016 11:22 am
by SteveHGraham
Here's my compelling reason: the spare faceplate I already have is cast iron. No $$$.

Re: MIG for Cast Iron + Small Welding Table

Posted: Fri Dec 02, 2016 11:53 am
by warmstrong1955
Ahhhh.....the reason of squeeeeeeeek....
OK....makes sense, if you don't need the faceplate for a faceplate.

If it has a center hole, it would be quite easy.

:)
Bill

Re: MIG for Cast Iron + Small Welding Table

Posted: Fri Dec 02, 2016 12:49 pm
by SteveM
Horror Freight has their $79 welding table on sale for $59 with the coupon.

http://www.harborfreight.com/quickview/ ... /id/10339/

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You could end up spending that much turning your faceplate into a welding table

Here's Adam Booth's welding table.
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Steve

Re: MIG for Cast Iron + Small Welding Table

Posted: Fri Dec 02, 2016 1:02 pm
by SteveHGraham
I've seen that table. I was thinking it might be nice to have one that I can rotate with a pedal, though.

I wonder how I could mount an L00 faceplate on a bearing without making a complete L00 taper. Maybe I'll take a look at it. I guess I could make a big round thing with threads inside it and some kind of bearing race under it.

Or I could continue burning holes in my wooden bench.

Re: MIG for Cast Iron + Small Welding Table

Posted: Fri Dec 02, 2016 1:27 pm
by SteveM
SteveHGraham wrote:I wonder how I could mount an L00 faceplate on a bearing without making a complete L00 taper.
You could bore out the faceplate to make it straight instead of a taper.

Of course, that means you would never be able to use it as an L00 faceplate.

The taper should not be that hard. You can use the compound. If the compound travel is not long enough, that shouldn't be a problem - you don't need the shaft to have a full-length taper on it - just enough to hold it in place.

Steve

Re: MIG for Cast Iron + Small Welding Table

Posted: Fri Dec 02, 2016 10:04 pm
by spro
Hi Steve G. Why screw that faceplace up when I could use it. If you post a pic of it here, someone could make it worth your while. L00 was used on a lot of lathes. What is the diameter?

Re: MIG for Cast Iron + Small Welding Table

Posted: Fri Dec 02, 2016 10:49 pm
by SteveHGraham
The faceplate is 11". It's a South Bend. It was from a school that used South Bend lathes. They never used it, and a dealer bought it and resold it to me. It has about five minutes of use on it. Still has some factory grease in the threads.

The problem is that if I sell it, I still have to buy something to use for welding. I don't think anyone here would want it. They run around $150 when they pop up for sale.

Re: MIG for Cast Iron + Small Welding Table

Posted: Sat Dec 03, 2016 12:50 am
by spro
Thanks for measuring and your reply. My Rockwell 11" has L00 as does the Rockwell 14". The 13" Sheldon, Clausings and later South Bend 13" used that tapered end. Many other lathes. If it comes down to $150 then I'm not interested but it would be of more value to sell it and get what you actually want, instead of boring out that taper. There is a key slot in the taper which could really be a drag to bore correctly. The whole time, you know that you are destroying a useable attachment. I don't think you need to do that. There are older threaded face plates which could be bored or sleeved more easily. I and many have some larger face plates and no clue what they fit.
Something else here is the welding table. The HF one seems reasonable but the "engine stand" is something else. They attach to the back side of an engine and have adjustable arms to bolt to most any configuration. That section rotates or is locked. So with a plate or angle plate bolted to it, you have any angle while sitting on a chair.
These stands are inexpensive and don't take up much room. They have casters, disassemble quickly and can actually be used for engine repair.

Re: MIG for Cast Iron + Small Welding Table

Posted: Sat Dec 03, 2016 9:26 am
by Russ Hanscom
Go to a wrecking yard and get an old flywheel, don't mess up a good faceplate. Flywheels from a vehicle with a clutch should have one flat side.

Re: MIG for Cast Iron + Small Welding Table

Posted: Sat Dec 03, 2016 11:01 am
by SteveHGraham
Flywheels don't have T-slots.

Re: MIG for Cast Iron + Small Welding Table

Posted: Sat Dec 03, 2016 11:03 am
by GlennW
SteveHGraham wrote:Flywheels don't have T-slots.
C Clamps work, and unlike slots, can be wherever you want them.