Vegetable Garden Near Line of Shade Trees?

The Junk Drawer is for those Off Topical discussions where we can ask questions of the community that we feel might have the ability to help out.

Moderators: Harold_V, websterz

JackF
Posts: 1461
Joined: Mon Jan 26, 2009 3:56 pm
Location: Caldwell, Idaho

Re: Vegetable Garden Near Line of Shade Trees?

Postby JackF » Thu Mar 16, 2017 11:33 am

Steve,will you be firing over the garden? I have read and heard from good sources that all plants have feelings and shooting over them with a lethal weapon may frighten them to death. :roll: :wink: :lol:


Jack.

User avatar
SteveHGraham
Posts: 5961
Joined: Sat Jan 17, 2009 7:55 pm
Location: Florida

Re: Vegetable Garden Near Line of Shade Trees?

Postby SteveHGraham » Thu Mar 16, 2017 12:05 pm

I refuse to tolerate snowflake plants.
Don't trigger me, bro!

benshell
Posts: 18
Joined: Mon Dec 05, 2011 3:07 am
Location: Sacramento, CA
Contact:

Re: Vegetable Garden Near Line of Shade Trees?

Postby benshell » Fri Mar 17, 2017 1:57 pm

Steve, you ask about replacing dirt... what about adding it? One of the first things my wife and I did when we bought our house was build a raised garden area. It took 25 yards of soil to fill (mostly screened topsoil, then a layer of planting mix on the top) but it was well worth it. Of course, my motivations for the project were not entirely garden focused:

Image

See more on Flickr
Ben Shell

User avatar
SteveHGraham
Posts: 5961
Joined: Sat Jan 17, 2009 7:55 pm
Location: Florida

Re: Vegetable Garden Near Line of Shade Trees?

Postby SteveHGraham » Fri Mar 17, 2017 4:32 pm

I have built a raised bed, and it definitely works, but my feeling is that there is no point in building the ground up with wooden barriers that will eventually disintegrate when I can just get rid of the bad dirt and replace it.

Whether that is correct or not...different question.
Don't trigger me, bro!

Russ Hanscom
Posts: 1374
Joined: Wed Mar 15, 2006 11:10 pm
Location: Farmington, NM

Re: Vegetable Garden Near Line of Shade Trees?

Postby Russ Hanscom » Fri Mar 17, 2017 5:21 pm

After your back gets less flexible, the advantages of raised beds become more obvious. Wait for the local lumber store to have a sale on cull pressure treated wood

User avatar
SteveHGraham
Posts: 5961
Joined: Sat Jan 17, 2009 7:55 pm
Location: Florida

Re: Vegetable Garden Near Line of Shade Trees?

Postby SteveHGraham » Fri Mar 17, 2017 5:33 pm

I was hoping to use a tractor. I don't think a raised bed will tolerate that.
Don't trigger me, bro!

Russ Hanscom
Posts: 1374
Joined: Wed Mar 15, 2006 11:10 pm
Location: Farmington, NM

Re: Vegetable Garden Near Line of Shade Trees?

Postby Russ Hanscom » Sun Mar 19, 2017 5:03 pm

Several options for cultivating a raised bed. Build a ramp at one end for the tractor, or, I bought an electric rototiller which is quite adequate for modest beds.

User avatar
steamin10
Posts: 6415
Joined: Sun Jun 08, 2003 11:52 pm
Location: NW Indiana. Close to Lake Michigan S. tip

Re: Vegetable Garden Near Line of Shade Trees?

Postby steamin10 » Sun Mar 19, 2017 6:42 pm

My neighbor has a bedding tool that goes behind his tractor. After ground is prepped by rotovating, he drags this contraption over the ground, and it sccops soil into about a 30 inch level bed, maybe 6-8 inches high. Following discs on the machine bury the lower edges of black plasti ground sheet over the bed. Planting consists of cutting a circle or an Xn the sheet, and they grow happily in the soils warmed by the black plastic, and wee free. Something like a foot of isle exists between the bed rows. the plastic has rain holes punched in it, to drain water that collects, and it is pulled off and discarded at the end of the season.

My garden is much smaller, so I use the news print and straw mulch method.
Big Dave, former Millwright, Electrician, Environmental conditioning, and back yard Fixxit guy. Now retired, persuing boats, trains, and broken relics.
We have enough youth, how about a fountain of Smart. My computer beat me at chess, but not kickboxing
It is not getting caught in the rain, its learning to dance in it. People saying good morning, should have to prove it.

User avatar
SteveHGraham
Posts: 5961
Joined: Sat Jan 17, 2009 7:55 pm
Location: Florida

Re: Vegetable Garden Near Line of Shade Trees?

Postby SteveHGraham » Sun Mar 19, 2017 6:57 pm

It sounds like that tool would just pile up the existing bad dirt instead of replacing it.
Don't trigger me, bro!

User avatar
steamin10
Posts: 6415
Joined: Sun Jun 08, 2003 11:52 pm
Location: NW Indiana. Close to Lake Michigan S. tip

Re: Vegetable Garden Near Line of Shade Trees?

Postby steamin10 » Mon Mar 20, 2017 10:41 am

It is a tool of simple drag and level design. Please read what I stated before. We have a soil that is sand based, that is high in humas, or rotted vegatation. Wood chips, and straw, are basic to keeping the soil moist and loose. Planting rye seed and then turning it under when half grown is knwn as 'green manure' for gardens. It enhances the Nitrogen, (amonia) in the soil. We use plant starts from georgia, and Alabama that are several weeks ahead in the growing season, and transplant them with a root dip of Urea, that gives them a big boost. We have a tank of wheels that we not only can side dress the rows but put a lb or two of fertilzer in the water to give the dry plants an extra kick. It does not take much help to keep plants growing in dry speels quite well. they need the water late when it comes time to set fruit. It is constant care, but can be rewarding with 6 weeks of harvesting.

It is a mindset to nurture and aid nature, without heavy chemicalising.
Big Dave, former Millwright, Electrician, Environmental conditioning, and back yard Fixxit guy. Now retired, persuing boats, trains, and broken relics.
We have enough youth, how about a fountain of Smart. My computer beat me at chess, but not kickboxing
It is not getting caught in the rain, its learning to dance in it. People saying good morning, should have to prove it.

User avatar
ctwo
Posts: 2406
Joined: Tue Mar 27, 2012 12:37 pm
Location: Silly Cone Valley

Re: Vegetable Garden Near Line of Shade Trees?

Postby ctwo » Mon Mar 20, 2017 11:25 am

I agree with loads of manure and compost and working the soil to improve it. Of course pick out the rocks and gravel and make some stone fencing or divides, decorate your walkways sort of thing...
Standards are so important that everyone must have their own...
To measure is to know - Lord Kelvin
Disclaimer: I'm just a guy with a few machines...


Return to “The Junk Drawer”

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 3 guests