Frustration...

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Re: Frustration...

Post by spro » Thu Feb 20, 2020 1:04 am

lol. I think the branches need a good shaking at times. All kinds of ding a lots, bad things come off them.

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Re: Frustration...

Post by liveaboard » Thu Feb 20, 2020 5:04 pm

NP317 wrote:
Wed Feb 19, 2020 9:07 pm
You really should consider a more robust design...
RussN
Change the 1" square tube for solid maybe?
The glass is 5mm and backed with a 5mm steel plate.
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spro wrote:
Thu Feb 20, 2020 1:04 am
lol. I think the branches need a good shaking at times. All kinds of ding a lots, bad things come off them.
In my case, mostly oranges.
Some other fruit; but mostly just oranges.

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Re: Frustration...

Post by NP317 » Thu Feb 20, 2020 10:21 pm

Just in case my comments were too dry, I was joking!
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Re: Frustration...

Post by Harold_V » Fri Feb 21, 2020 2:33 am

Figured you were. Those mirrors are quite robust. Nice job!

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Re: Frustration...

Post by spro » Fri Feb 21, 2020 2:51 pm

Yes and I love oranges. They are true gifts to mankind.

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Re: Frustration...

Post by liveaboard » Fri Feb 21, 2020 6:41 pm

Thanks guys.
The tractor is sort of a hobby on rather large wheels.

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Re: Frustration...

Post by spro » Sat Feb 22, 2020 12:10 am

The smaller oranges are called "Halos" over here. They are delightful gems grown in California. During off season, they were from Ecuador or South America. Sad because they were bitter and hard. They traveled a long way to get here, so it is understandable.

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Re: Frustration...

Post by spro » Fri Feb 28, 2020 3:40 am

The topic came from spray nozzles thru tractors to bitter oranges. I enjoyed every bit of it. Didn't mention " bag worms" . There is always something to kill the "evergreens" too. Really tall ones with choking vines sucking the life out of them, mixed with poison ivy . Grand trees go down and cause damage to structures, houses. Were it to be they became so tall and did, more serious destruction when they fall. Property requires a good look at the heath of trees surrounding. Envision the reach and the branches of what that weight can lay upon. Branches are good to spread the load but forest doesn't care about that. It is a cycle and going to happen among some trees. Huge Maple trees been there for near forever ( in the childs' memory) yet maybe only 60 years. Stuff loves the maple and cores out the trunk. It continues to grow and throw out the whirlibirds seeds everywhere. it knows it is dieing .
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Re: Frustration...

Post by spro » Fri Feb 28, 2020 4:07 am

The immense roots' under structure of trees change the lay of the land or roads. There are reasons roads are washed out or collapse. That one grand dame which hovered above, we drive past...(many many more) they finally had it by windstorm or neglect. It was going to happen.

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Re: Frustration...

Post by Jorg50 » Wed Jul 22, 2020 6:56 am

Harold_V wrote:
Mon Feb 17, 2020 3:49 pm
TimTheGrim wrote:
Mon Feb 17, 2020 12:19 pm
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My foreman made my life so miserable, I left 6 weeks later. Go figure.
I had a similar experience. My conclusion is that when a worker outshines leadership, the worker is a threat. Jealousy on the part of the foreman tends to result in badgering of the perceived threat, with the distinct possibility that the worker will take the job from his superior (in his mind). Like you, I moved on. I was unwilling to waste my talent on a job where I was abused.

Strangely, the guy who saved my job when I was in training wasn't threatened by such things. He reveled in his accomplishment by ensuring that upper management knew that I was worth saving. So unlike the guy who gave me cause to move on in the incident, above.

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This situation happens also when a mechanic is dealing with an engineer, not taking their value away but when it comes to put things in practice is it an issue because a lot of them only know theory and do not have a know how to practice. I had issues with them and the end result was that the job never got done the right way and l was pushed aside, it will probably work not as efficient and maybe in the long will fail. When something is not certain anything can happen. Probably the people that do not how things work live happier, not me.

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Re: Frustration...

Post by earlgo » Wed Jul 22, 2020 9:20 am

This situation happens also when a mechanic is dealing with an engineer, not taking their value away but when it comes to put things in practice is it an issue because a lot of them only know theory and do not have a know how to practice.
Mostly true. When my dad took engineering at OSU in the late 20s he had to take machine shop courses, and I have a couple of his text books. We had a lathe and welder in our basement shop when I was 15 on, and I learned how to make things. When I went to engineering school I knew stuff others there had never done. There were a couple of fellow graduates that didn't know the difference between a screwdriver and a hammer. About 5 years in industry I got laid off/downsized and decided to go to a trade school to get more machining experience. That helped me immensely in my later jobs.
In my last years in industry, I had the privilege of mentoring interns for a school semester/quarter. I made sure that we visited at least two of the local machine shops that subcontracted the tooling that the intern and I designed, so that he/she could see how things were made. The owners were more than happy to give them the $50 tour.
Too bad that now the pure sciences are fading from the school curriculae as did the machine shops years ago. I guess SWJ interpretive dance is more important. (Oops sorry, I am getting cranky in my OF years.)
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Re: Frustration...

Post by NP317 » Wed Jul 22, 2020 9:28 am

I had the honor of teaching/training Mechanical Engineering students.
One of the main lessons I taught them is that the technical people they worked with could make or break their own Engineering reputations.
So treat them as their teachers, and learn from them to everyone's benefit.
The other lessons I pushed were to NEVER touch someone else's tools, unless they have specific permission(!),
and have your own good measuring devices with you on the job.

I have heard back from former students about how well that worked for them. All parties benefited from the mutual respect.
It's not a difficult approach to take, and surprising that more people don't work with their colleagues that way.

And then there are those people who live by Fear and Pheromones, without thinking of better ways to be.
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