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 Post subject: Harrassment
PostPosted: Fri Feb 24, 2012 3:32 pm 
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Those of you may have followed last year's turmoil of me upturning and convulsing trying to comply with "violations" to "county code". There was "trash" which was firewood. there was peeling paint on a porch. There was vague reference to anything which describes a normal backyard sans some motors under a tarp behind a fence. That was all taken care of by me.Their minions pulling entire cabinets off the wall of my garage and stealing anything of value would sate them-some would think. In addition they saddled me for $3700, 4 months after the robbery occurred.
This is arlington County Va. This is the way they treat people who have lived and payed the taxes for 35 years. To recount; They send some "violations" by regular mail then others by certified mail. You work on one and then is due another or your house is going into "lein".
With 5 days to comply with this I borrow the money to pay this before action. Two weeks after comfirmation/receipt it goes to lein anyway. This time the charge is $4200. Arlington Virginia. So after repeated phone calls I find that yes it is payed. Why it rose $500.00 in two weeks is answered by saying "accounting,since it's already paid we have no record"-or very close to that.
My question to them was " There was no "Service" on the date specified on the violation report. Eyewitness account they showed up with trucks and looked around and left. Everything was gone already. "What was the origional charge 4 months before you gave me notice ?"
That is closed. "there are No Current violations on your property".. but there was Inflection her voice. I Knew there would be another February where this starts again. The $3700 was a payoff , extortion.


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 Post subject: Re: Harrassment
PostPosted: Fri Feb 24, 2012 5:33 pm 
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This has never happened to you yet so you think I'm crazy. I'm just stating facts. My house is on a corner with land lines buried around the perimeter. I cannot excactly erect a 8'fence to keep someone from being offended by me crawling under my own car in my own driveway. To do the work I must do to save. To save for what? Extraction? Hatred? I'm not pulling transmissions or anything that way nor is anything evident of bygone days. It is only in trespassing clambering beyond my back door is a remnant which they signed off because they already fined or varianced. It is how their minions left it.
Their minions left an empty gas container against my house while taking the fireproof cabinet containing my real gas and mixtures for 2-cycle tools. Then when I complained about that, a container of aprox 3 gals of gasoline was stuffed under some barn beams next to my house. They took aluminum 200lbs easy in the form of an optical bench lathe. They destroyed any hope of repair to jointer planers and my 13" South Bend lost its base plate covers. Because they happened to be in my own yard. My little yard between two fences, in that section. Their answer was to destroy the fence.
While removing my Weber grill and the cabinet it sat upon. They removed the downspout connecters and hangers and pipe reducers and downspouts and gutters and anything of salvage value.
I know I shouda, get a freakin lawyer shouda this and that. Get a lawyer who isn't in the bag with these. Right. My taxes are paid for them to figure out my next move. drive me crazy or drive me out.
I'm only saying that it happened and indications are that it will happen again.
There used to be a word for this which doesn't apply anymore. :( Fratricide .


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 Post subject: Re: Harrassment
PostPosted: Fri Feb 24, 2012 6:22 pm 
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Having been set upon over the years, although, not as blatent and destructive as you describe, I have learned to exercise the law in open court, where the smoke and mirrors are not as handy to hide. However, my land is grandfathered, unincorporated, and in continuos use without breaks so that new authority of codes, do not apply. That is the law here. The former lawyer that tested me said that all lands come under the 'new' codes, (written in 56, and revised). Not so. read the book, and it used to say what was what, and since has been cleansed of such honest knowledge.

Get off your duff and file an action pro - se against the 'minions', and their bosses for the losses that have been incurred. Just watch the furr fly. They will threaten and posture, and you file again in an upper court, since the opinions of the lower court may be tainted. At the first hint the county lawyer wants to talk to you, you sue him, as the damages have already occured. Now they have to hire an outside lawyer, and will try to assert the fees are yours. Destruction and laying waste to fencing and such property is Illegal by any mans book, and state so.

I am NOT a lawyer, nor do I give legal advice. Just freindly guidance. If you question what is to be done, go to a law library, and ask the librarian about case law, in similar instances in the state. You may be amazed at what a librarian cna point to. Take some money to have copies ru off, for verbatum case number and file report. These are official record, and hold a lot of weight if the facts line up.

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 Post subject: Re: Harrassment
PostPosted: Sat Feb 25, 2012 2:31 am 
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Thanks Dave. i really needed an ear and advise and this will come together.


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 Post subject: Re: Harrassment
PostPosted: Sat Feb 25, 2012 2:56 am 
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Every day the auger is turned into my gut a fraction further. They just have to continue for they have a taste for it.


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 Post subject: Re: Harassment
PostPosted: Sat Feb 25, 2012 10:56 am 
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Yes, I don't know what is going on in the country at this time.
Right now, the Local town is passing an ordnance that states "No building shall be built or covered with Steel Siding".
Since I have gotten a couple of jobs in past years building out buildings using the 3 foot wide steel, seems that I have lost any future jobs.
Heck, there is even a house ½ mile from me that was built using the steel siding. And it doesn't look bad.(Not my preference, but each their own).
What is it they want? Painted wood siding?
I don't understand why one person takes it upon themselves to have everyone step in line to their ideas.
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 Post subject: Re: Harrassment
PostPosted: Sat Feb 25, 2012 5:33 pm 
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yes. it almost seems as those who have spent their lives wrecking one area move to another and start messing with it. Like the folks over here who move near a military base and get all offended about maneuvers or 21 gun salutes. The folks who move near a small country airport and start flooding the paper about "noise". :shock: I was really interesting in buying a house which was across the street from a rail line. Great old place. Been on this earth X2 longer than me. Train goes by and everything is shaking and owner keeps talking because he doesn't even notice it.
So there are some things we can plan for and some things are insideous. Local officials and there pool justifying /employing their own existence by shaking down the citizenry.


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 Post subject: Re: Harrassment
PostPosted: Sat Feb 25, 2012 6:02 pm 
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yeh, "their".
Something important which I finally realised by certain clues and witness accounts:
Please bear with me as I lay this out because it explains a boatload about the final charges. In urban counties there is trash pickup which is part of the same bill for (city)water and sewer. These are things we pay into for decades or whatever but when there is a load it requires request for "special pickup". This is generally a rational fee $60-80 because you are citizen and they have the special trucks and cranes for these things.
However, when I go on their *list*, apparently their buddy "agent" has free reign to actually arrive before or even follow the county trucks and supercede the request. Items are prepared to certain length, bundled and set at curb in normal fashion but are Removed by the agent.
Therefor, Whatever they charge, It may be $500 for removal of file cabinet and auto parts. It may have taken 8 minutes. So this goes on a ledger only known to the county who sits on it collecting time payments, processing fees while issueing new edicts. The larger the charge the more they make.


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 Post subject: Re: Harrassment
PostPosted: Sat Feb 25, 2012 8:50 pm 
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I live in the County, where there is trash pickup, ( by me, along the property and road ditch where idiots without respect toss Mc D's and White bites trash) No running water, except in the ditchworks along the road, and sewer service when it rains, and the septics back up in the spring floods. I wont buy trash pickup. I take mine to work, (when I have a job) Or cut waste and recycle most everything else.

I dont believe in make work projects, or paying for sewer and water bills. In parts of town, they have banned wells, and yet call on people not to water their lawns in hot dry weather. If you have an old well, It can earn you a ticket for watering. Madness! Other laws have stated when items are tossed in a dumpster, unless the lid is secured, you have lost all control on the contents, they having been discarded. The next finder is welcome to repurpose the items claimed, if there is public access.

I can tell you of several stories of challenging local authority, and giving the police cheif a letter, that his officers have no power to arrest me for disregarding police orders, when there is no law broken. And that included little blue LED lites that decorate windshield wipers. Volunteer Fre Crews use a minumum 35 watt blue light. That is the law. 5 bulbs totalling less than 15 watt, do not fall under the law, yet the local PD's hand out $100 tickets all the time. Yo have to hold the line. I have for years, and other powers get tired of meeting with me. So I enjoy a bit of peace most often.

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 Post subject: Re: Harrassment
PostPosted: Sat Feb 25, 2012 9:42 pm 
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Dear big Dave. You made some goods points as always. We are not "stressproof" and the adversary banks on that. The more we know the more incongruous these things appear. I really think they are Trying to break us. We have spoken on this board about the piezio effect upon ore. It would seem there are classes on how to inflict this on humans. Classes we pay for at both ends.


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 Post subject: Re: Harrassment
PostPosted: Sun Feb 26, 2012 1:59 pm 
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I dont think most of it is based in mean spirits. When it is, these people should give up the notion of public service, and go elsewhere. It is simply logic and control issues and Ego of the Alpha spirited ones that come to power, in their little cubicle. Most often they dont have the right information, and make decisions on bad facts, just because they feel they must act..

I make no claims, and know I Irk various people of manicured lawn sets, because I seemingly dont care for their standards. THAT is what freedom is at its basic.

Right now I have a problem, that the neighbor next door to my Rental, has about 4 bags of trash disembowled between the houses, and has not shown any effort at correcting his error. I am going to leave a note with him of my concerns. If not solved in 5 days, photgraphs of the condition created will be passed to the county. While that seems somewhat harsh, I refuse to get lowered to be buried in trash belonging to someone else, particularly, when it is subject to a lazy factor. Once dogs and coons find a ready place to freeload, they become hard to deter, and will knock over trash cans for their yummy contents.

So, I ask, am I harrassing him, or is he harrassing me? And why must I threaten overall authority to regulate a situation, that SHOULD NOT BE in the first place?

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 Post subject: Re: Harrassment
PostPosted: Sun Feb 26, 2012 10:48 pm 
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I don't think you are being unreasonable. In fact you are working in behalf of the tenant's health and safety as ward of your property. Hopefully the slob will respond to your note and correct the situation before the county directs their gaze to that general direction. I get that nauseating feeling whenever I think about "the county" being involved in these things. I may try to explain some more reasons for my "paranoia" later.


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