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PostPosted: Sun Oct 10, 2010 1:53 pm 
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Hey Guy's and or Gal's,

I need your help.

Brand Names, Model #'s, of known Lathe, Mill, Drill
3in1 Combo Multi - Machines.


I decided to try to put together a list of 3in1's for comparisons
In all area's, Any Country's Etc., If you have a minute or two,
Please contribute any or all info including Pictures, Comments,
Recommendations, if you have them.

It will be much appreciated.

Thank You.
Ken.

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 25, 2010 4:10 pm 
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I have a Smithy 3 in 1 Lath, Mill, Drill.

It is the older CB1220XL model I purchased in 1995 when I used to live in Florida.....I removed the Mill/Drill head about 10 years ago and just use it as a lathe now.

I also repowered it with a DC treadmill motor I purchased from Northern Surplus.

After being in storage the past 5 years I am just now about to get it set up again for operation in my new shop space.

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 26, 2010 11:35 am 
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Dennis,

Congrat's, and have fun in your new shop. 8)

Ken. :)

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 27, 2010 12:29 am 
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EMCO Maxi-10. (NOT Enco) A foreign jewel that outclasses anything in its size range that I know of. Made in Austria. Biggest drawback is the pastic-ey gears on the mill. They seem to be the weak link. I have run it, while my friend built his Raritan, after a Tich. About '85

A Chinee excuse for a 3-in-1 bought as a return from TSC stores. It was noisy, terrible, and broke a switch right off. Wound up as a door stop for a coupla years before dumping it on a RC car enthusiast. It was distinguished by a tall riser for the tool holder over the bed. Chattered unmercifully, and sitting at idle had a soft rocking motion on the table. (!) Same time frame. I will say I have seen nothing that bad lately.

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 27, 2010 1:59 pm 
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I have a Chizhou HQ400/3B Multi Purpose Machine! O.K. it is an older Grizzly G4015 (NOT the "z") import from China. It is a smooth machine....as far as I can tell so far :shock:

But then again, It could be crap for all I know! :oops:

All I have turned with it is some pvc pipe, Yes I am a rank amature who looks forward to mangaling perfectly good metal into piles of useless shreaddings! :mrgreen:


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PostPosted: Mon Dec 27, 2010 2:08 pm 
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If the fancy suits you to cut metal, Bob around the net and find some small engine plans, or even some cannon for ships or field. They are always interesting to those that dont fix or make stuff. Bits of metal can be picked up around town, at recyclers, and the net. The process will open other doors you dont know exist.

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 27, 2010 4:15 pm 
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Gently,

Welcome to the forum, there are many good and very
talented people here that are always willing to help each
other when asked. PVC can be a challenge to machine if
your tool is sharpened the wrong way and if your speeds
and feeds are wrong, because it is soft and melts easy
from friction. It can't be machined with the same techniqe
that you would use on metal. With that being said, you
have a good start by using PVC. Practice turning and boring
your PVC and holding a consistent size. Try cutting some
threads etc.

Ken. :)

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 27, 2010 6:27 pm 
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Grizzly GO516. OK 9 inch lathe, very light duty mill.


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PostPosted: Wed Dec 29, 2010 2:46 am 
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ken572 wrote:
Gently,

Welcome to the forum, there are many good and very
talented people here that are always willing to help each
other when asked. PVC can be a challenge to machine if
your tool is sharpened the wrong way and if your speeds
and feeds are wrong, because it is soft and melts easy
from friction. It can't be machined with the same techniqe
that you would use on metal. With that being said, you
have a good start by using PVC. Practice turning and boring
your PVC and holding a consistent size. Try cutting some
threads etc.

Ken. :)


Thanks Ken, Glad to be here! I have been looking at all the post's and information and suddenly realized...what did I get myself into!!! :shock:
But with all of you folks out there and the VAST amount of information I have just READ about, I think I can really make a go of it. The Machine was practically free (200.00) and a way to move it, I could not resist at least trying!

I have way more than that already in some basic stuff, measuring things, clamps, drill bits, a small 4" self centering vise (that bad boy set me back 135.00) an end mill holder and 1/2 inch end mill (note: I said Mill, as in one) because that is the size of the holder. A dial caliper and magnetic stand.

But the Pipe (PVC) has turned out great, so far I only tossed out (of the machine inadvertenly) 2 at my garage door! :oops:

This should be a fun learning experience!


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PostPosted: Fri Dec 31, 2010 1:44 pm 
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Hello ken572,

I am new to the forum and have limitted knowledge of machining. I am intrigued by the 3-in-1 multi-purpose machines. In surfing the internet I have come across a 3-in-1 machine sold by Wholesale Tool. Their website does not list a model number and I do not know who makes it for them. The equipment appears to have specs that are as good (or better?) than a comparable Shopfox, Smithy or Grizzly. I would appreciate any feedback on the line of machinery from Wholesale Tool.


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PostPosted: Fri Dec 31, 2010 8:49 pm 
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Hello turntwo,

Welcome to The Home Machinist Forum.
We have many great and very smart people in this forum,
that are always eager to help when and where they can.
In answer to your question about The Wholesale Tool.
3 in 1 Lathe Mill Drill Multi-Purpose Machine, Item #3014-0015
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It seems to be in the family of 3 in 1's listed as follow's.
Harbor Freight's - Item/Model # HF44142
Grizzly's - Item/Model # G9729
Smithy's - Item/Model # Midas-1220LTD
Enco's - Item/Model # 328-1310
Chizhou GHF Machinery Co.,Ltd - Item/Model # CNCHQ800
Bolton Tools - Item/Model # AT750
Craftex - Item/Model # B2229
Everbest - Item/Model # EB-HQ800
QTMT - Item # 87-115-935/Model # QT25531
SUMORE - Item # SP2307/Model # SP2307
and I'm sure you will find more as you do your research.
You will find that some, (but not all parts) will possibly
be interchangable. You will be on your own when and if you do
your research etc. Some times (nowadays) if it looks like a duck
it will fool you and bark like a dog :lol: For the most part you can
make most components work with lite mod's etc.
I have been told more good then bad about Wholesale Tool.
My only complaint about them is they like alot of others don't have
manuals in .pdf format :shock: NOT GOOD FOR SALE's, downloads
are cheap and great advertizer's (HELLO) :idea: :idea: :lol:
I like my HF44142 alot.. :D With that said, with any of the 3 in 1's
made today, when it arrives at your shop, even though it is brand new :o
Go over everything and read everything that comes with it so you get
to know it well. Do proper install, (SHIMS) level, indicate, align, firmly
secure the machine in place. take off all the covers and clean it well and
relube it. Sometimes the factory leaves MFG.,dirt and grime in and on
the machine, and might also forget to lube something or not lube it
enough etc. Check and adjust all belts, check and tighten all wire
connection's. Check and tighten all nuts, bolts, screws etc. BEFORE
you power it up, manually turn anything that turns to feel for tight spots
and or loose slop etc. If found fix first, then run the machine slow to start
and run it in.
This is all the info I could find for you. (The Rest Is For You To Research) :wink:

3-in-1 R8 Multi-Purpose Machine (WT)
Order Number: 3014-0015
item/model # 3014-0015
Price $1779.00 (Seems High)
Shipping included .. unknown
Steady rest item # 3014-0020 $69.00 Extra plus shipping.
Follow rest item # 3014-0025 $59.00 Extra plus shipping.
Machine Stand shown.. Included FREE
(Looks like drip pan is attached to the stand)
Change Gears included.. YES – Which ones is unknown???
Operator Manual / Parts Book - None listed to download???

http://www.wholesaletoolcompany.com/?gclid=
CP7VoYGjl6YCFRhCgwodmT1cpA

Main Customer Service 1-800-521-3420
Email address – None offered or listed
DESCRIPTION
This multi-purpose machine is suitable for processing metal, wood
and other materials. It consists of bed, headstock, drilling and
milling units, work table, tailstock and motor. It incorporates
turning, thread cutting, drilling and milling in one machine.
Includes free stand! Uses milling X and Y power feed Drill/mill
head rotates 180 degrees Workable feed can be controlled automatically
and manually in longitudinal and cross direction. Cross direction
provides power feed for milling operation. Includes 5-inch three-jaw
chuck, 3MT and 4MT dead centers, four-way tool post, change gears,
and 1/2-inch drill chuck with R8 arbor.
BRAND ??? Maybe - (WT) :? :?

SPECIFICATIONS
Spindle Speed(s): 16 (120-3,000 RPM)
Table Size: 18-11/16" x 6-19/64"
Spindle Distance: Nose to table, 12-3/64"; center and column, 11-7/32"
Hole Through Spindle: 1-3/32"
Motor: 3/4 hp, 1 ph., 110V
Tailstock Travel: 3"
Spindle Taper: R8 (drill/mill), 4 MT (turning)
Capacity: 55/64" drill; 1-3/32" end mill; 3-1/8" milling cutter
Thread Size: Longitudinal lead screw, 6 TPI/4 mm; inch, 4-120 TPI/0.2-6 mm
Feed: 0.002-0.014"/0.05-0.35 mm
Spindle Travel: 4-21/64" (mill/drill)
Tailstock Taper: 3MT
Longitudinal Travel: 18-7/64" max.
Swing Over Bed: 16-1/2"
Distance Bet. Centers: 31-1/2"
Net Weight: 506 lbs.
Cross Slide Travel: 7-7/8" max

Ken. :)

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 01, 2011 12:25 am 
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3,000 RPM are always welcome in a machine that size !!

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