Semi Trailer Tires

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Semi Trailer Tires

Post by hottshot65 » Tue Mar 01, 2016 11:58 pm

Hi folks,

I'm currently designing some truck trailers for my flatcars. I'm on the hunt for suitable wheels. Does anybody have any ideas?

Thanks!
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Re: Semi Trailer Tires

Post by steamin10 » Wed Mar 02, 2016 1:04 am

I made two round front trailers that were like what was on the road in the 40-50's, and a bit short. I used copper tubing for the landing gear, and cheap plastic center wheels from a lawn mower for the duals, (one axle). They were chewed on a bit to modify the diamond tread, to a more road like tread on the lathe, and drilled holes in the center disc for a Bud wheel. I imagine a spider, and lugs could be cut from plexi, and the wheel enter cut out for a different look, but I was satisfied with what came out. The fine cabinet grained wood, the box/chassis was built from, did not like abuse or moisture, so good sealing and painting would be needed if you go that route.

I have seen some containers that were not much more than boxes with some wood strips, but the lettering for Hapag-lloyd, and Seatran, made the show. They were made about 3/4 size with all the ribs in wood, but on the flatcar they were well short of car width, and provided seating for bodies. I thought it worked well.
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Re: Semi Trailer Tires

Post by Gary Armitstead » Wed Mar 02, 2016 2:50 am

Gerry,

Contact David Gehrke at West Bend Railcar Shops. He makes all steel semi trailers for flat car loads. Beautiful stuff! Maybe he can provide the source for wheels. Take a look at his site. Many more photos there of semi trailers completed and painted. I bought a 6 ft. welded steel gondola from him along with many custom made detail parts. He does nice fabrication work.
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Hopefully David can help. Not affiliated with David, just a happy customer.

Here's a link to the place in West Bend, WI

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Re: Semi Trailer Tires

Post by neanderman » Thu Mar 03, 2016 12:53 am

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Re: Semi Trailer Tires

Post by fly5150 » Thu Mar 03, 2016 11:11 am

I was thinking about casting some in urethane that are exact scale reproductions of an Alcoa 22.5" wheel and tire for a while now. Is there enough interest in these?

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Re: Semi Trailer Tires

Post by JoeKahan » Thu Mar 10, 2016 4:10 am

I would be interested in about 4 to 12 of them if price was reasonable. Also, would they be cast in color or would they be paintable?
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Re: Semi Trailer Tires

Post by Gary Armitstead » Thu Mar 10, 2016 12:16 pm

fly5150 wrote:I was thinking about casting some in urethane that are exact scale reproductions of an Alcoa 22.5" wheel and tire for a while now. Is there enough interest in these?
In my "other life" before retirement, I was a Die Sinker and used to make the forging dies for the forged aluminum truck wheels for Alcoa. Wish I still had access to the prints for those wheels now!
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Re: Semi Trailer Tires

Post by redneckalbertan » Thu Mar 10, 2016 5:49 pm

Gary Armitstead wrote:
fly5150 wrote:I was thinking about casting some in urethane that are exact scale reproductions of an Alcoa 22.5" wheel and tire for a while now. Is there enough interest in these?
In my "other life" before retirement, I was a Die Sinker and used to make the forging dies for the forged aluminum truck wheels for Alcoa. Wish I still had access to the prints for those wheels now!
You'd likely know the right people to talk to, why not tell them why you want prints and ask if you can have them?

It's not like competitors can't buy Alcoa's rims and reverse engineer them...

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Re: Semi Trailer Tires

Post by Gary Armitstead » Thu Mar 10, 2016 7:23 pm

redneckalbertan wrote:
Gary Armitstead wrote:
fly5150 wrote:I was thinking about casting some in urethane that are exact scale reproductions of an Alcoa 22.5" wheel and tire for a while now. Is there enough interest in these?
In my "other life" before retirement, I was a Die Sinker and used to make the forging dies for the forged aluminum truck wheels for Alcoa. Wish I still had access to the prints for those wheels now!
You'd likely know the right people to talk to, why not tell them why you want prints and ask if you can have them?

It's not like competitors can't buy Alcoa's rims and reverse engineer them...
I was good friends with many of the designers at Alcoa, Vernon, CA. I would definitely know who to talk to and they would probably give me some. The ONLY problem is that these guys are on the "dirt side" of the grass now and might be a little difficult to reach :). I sank these dies over forty years ago. :)
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Re: Semi Trailer Tires

Post by chooch » Fri Mar 11, 2016 1:01 am

I think-- someone of the Montreal Live Steamers build a scale model of the Kenworth semi truck. right from the company plans. Not sure where / what site i saw it on but, maybe a question to them might help. I`m always looking in the Toy aisles for something I might use for 1-1/2 trains so, about what size would the tires/wheels be. 4--5" diameter??
There are also hobby sites for trailer trucks RC and otherwise.
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Re: Semi Trailer Tires

Post by chooch » Tue Mar 15, 2016 9:16 am

No solution,further answers to the Trailer Tire question. Where to get them, the approx. diameter, will someone be making them??
Guess a visit to a truck stop with a tape measure will be needed. :idea:
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Re: Semi Trailer Tires

Post by fly5150 » Tue Mar 15, 2016 10:23 am

I have drawn up a 100% exact scale 22.5" alcoa rim and a rough representation of the tire. I am quoting it out in a variety of production options as it looks like a large quantity is needed. I also found a company that makes perfect machined aluminum wheels and rubber tires, but very expensive. I hope to have a scale offering soon.

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