Easy, quick, & cheap trucks?

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Re: Easy, quick, & cheap trucks?

Post by chooch » Mon Mar 17, 2014 10:09 pm

Guess I`m not the only Older person knowing of Carl Purinton and some of the old, simple but workable building methods and parts. Anyone have the old Bethlehem Pattern Works catalogs--could get some simple build ideas from it I would think.
The "Friction Drive" system could easily be converted to electric drive.
Add some details and small changes to Diesel trucks.
Not to be Off subject but to add to "Simple" info.
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Re: Easy, quick, & cheap trucks?

Post by Bill Shields » Mon Mar 17, 2014 11:04 pm

ever see Charlie's riding car couplers?

He used screen door hooks...
Too many things going on to bother listing them.

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Re: Easy, quick, & cheap trucks?

Post by LVRR2095 » Wed Mar 19, 2014 10:02 am

Bill Shields wrote:ever see Charlie's riding car couplers?

He used screen door hooks...
And they work perfectly!

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Re: Easy, quick, & cheap trucks?

Post by Bill Shields » Wed Mar 19, 2014 11:25 am

especially with the spring loaded latch..... :shock:

People have to be so darn SOPHISTICATED..

we need to just relax and have fun.
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Re: Easy, quick, & cheap trucks?

Post by redneckalbertan » Wed Mar 19, 2014 9:36 pm

I can't say I'm familiar with a spring loaded screen door latch. Would someone mind posting a picture? Or better yet a picture of the item being used as a coupler!

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Re: Easy, quick, & cheap trucks?

Post by LVRR2095 » Thu Mar 20, 2014 5:58 am

redneckalbertan wrote:I can't say I'm familiar with a spring loaded screen door latch. Would someone mind posting a picture? Or better yet a picture of the item being used as a coupler!
http://img.rakuten.com/PIC/9456175/0/1/300/9456175.jpg

Also called a hook and eye.

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Re: Easy, quick, & cheap trucks?

Post by redneckalbertan » Thu Mar 20, 2014 8:42 am

Thanks for the picture! I don't think I have seen one of those with the spring to keep it latched. Like was said above simple!

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Re: Easy, quick, & cheap trucks?

Post by Pontiacguy1 » Fri Mar 21, 2014 10:55 am

Yep, in the past, live steam locomotive builders had to use far less equipment, and were far less sophisticated with the tools and techniques they had at their disposal. A lot of the tips and tricks that they used would be frowned on by some today, however, you have to remember their mind-set: They were not building super-detailed museum pieces, they were building operating miniature live-steam locomotives, and they tried to get them up and running in as short a length of time as possible. Sometimes they were somewhat crude looking, but they had personality.

I do enjoy seeing the huge level of details on a lot of the locomotives being produced today. These are levels which were almost unheard of 30 years ago. However, it still makes me smile to see someone coming back into the steaming bays with a soot and oil covered locomotive that has been out pounding the rails for the past 6 to 8 hours. It might not be the prettiest or most detailed locomotive, but it sure does run and its owner has sure had a lot of fun.

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Re: Easy, quick, & cheap trucks?

Post by Dutchman's Curve » Mon Sep 22, 2014 11:26 pm

I've sent a PM regarding this design.
Greg_Lewis wrote:Here's a design I got from Cal Tinkham. As you can see, a piece of flat bar is the bolster and the sides are cut from plate. I had the side frames laser cut but you can hog them out with a mill or torch-cut them with a template as no dimension is critical. Cal used aluminum plate, I used steel. The axles ride in R8 bearings in bored holes which in the photo are covered with round plates. Click on the photo for a larger view. In that view you can see holes in the side plates adjacent to the bolster which are for brake hangers. The brakes are yet to be made. These trucks are easy to make, ride well. and look plausible. I can provide drawings if you want.

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Re: Easy, quick, & cheap trucks?

Post by BRMRR24 » Wed Sep 24, 2014 6:35 pm

I really enjoyed this topic. Thanks for sharing these ideas. I love the idea of creating things easy and with items you can find just lying around.

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Re: Easy, quick, & cheap trucks?

Post by DianneB » Thu Sep 25, 2014 5:31 am

With our club's big anniversary meet out of the way I started making new ball bearing side frames to replace the tube-and-bushing frames.
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BB side frames
The frames are cut from 3/8" plate and drilled to be a loose fit on 1-1/8" OD ball bearings (to allow for flexibility). A 3/4" shaft was run through the bolster (to increase strength) and the side frames pivot on the shaft and the trucks are amazingly flexible.
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Assembled
The side frames are held in place with flat washers and a cotter key but I may replace the cotter key with shaft collars.

The revised trucks sure run easy!!!

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Re: Easy, quick, & cheap trucks?

Post by chooch » Thu Sep 25, 2014 9:27 am

Dianne,

Yes, those trucks built like that should be Very Flexible. I have some OLD Miller/Lehigh/Bethlehem trucks built in that way and they work just Great.

Would you mind to explain or confirm a little more how the bearings are held in place. With just 3/8th plate, it looks like you might have a Backing plate Inside for the bearing and maybe a Nut and washer Outside ??

BTW. Do you have any photos of your Streetcar in operation at the special event.

Thank you.
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