dovetail on a DTI
- refinery mike
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dovetail on a DTI
I want to make some specialized holders for my DTI. (Brown and Sharpe) What i need to do is cut those tiny dovetails for the indicator to fit in. Probabaly in aluminum. The problem is that i can not find a cutter that small. Seams that 3/8 is the smallest cutter. I tried to grind a bit in a piece of hss rod but it was less than satisfactory. Before i try again anyone got any ideas as to how to make a tiny dovetail.
Re: dovetail on a DTI
I used was a 3/16" end mill, cut a slot .200" wide by 0.070" deep.Then took a small triangular file that I ground safe on one side to cut the 60° angle for the sides of the dovetail.
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Re: dovetail on a DTI
Thanks J, i know that is how the old gun smiths used to do it. I didnt think about making a safe side on the file. Good idea. a regular triangular file has a squared off edge that ruins everything on the dovetail.
I definately need one of those tool grinder set ups. Does someone here have a foolproof explanation for my wife the world will fail if i dont get one soon. I mean it is my duty to buy one, right.
I definately need one of those tool grinder set ups. Does someone here have a foolproof explanation for my wife the world will fail if i dont get one soon. I mean it is my duty to buy one, right.
- tornitore45
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Re: dovetail on a DTI
I enjoy making cutters and the more I make the better I get to it.
I made a small 3 flutes dove tail cutter out of drill rod. Turned, gashed, milled the secondary relief, blued the primary relief surface and filed away with a diamond lap to create the primary relief leaving a tiny blue line behind the cutting edge.
Harden with a torch, temper in the toaster oven (wife goes bezerk each time).
I am building the PM drill press model, had to make a cutter for the 0.125" Dia. T slots bottom.
Ramsey method is faster though.
I made a small 3 flutes dove tail cutter out of drill rod. Turned, gashed, milled the secondary relief, blued the primary relief surface and filed away with a diamond lap to create the primary relief leaving a tiny blue line behind the cutting edge.
Harden with a torch, temper in the toaster oven (wife goes bezerk each time).
I am building the PM drill press model, had to make a cutter for the 0.125" Dia. T slots bottom.
Ramsey method is faster though.
Mauro Gaetano
in Austin TX
in Austin TX
Re: dovetail on a DTI
When I encountered the same problem I found a tiny dovetail cutter used for mounting sights on firearms at Brownells, the online gunsmith supplier.
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Re: dovetail on a DTI
Quite the selection:mklotz wrote:When I encountered the same problem I found a tiny dovetail cutter used for mounting sights on firearms at Brownells, the online gunsmith supplier.
http://www.brownells.com/gunsmith-tools ... l%20cutter
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Re: dovetail on a DTI
I made safe side file and put the dovetails in. It went easy. I think i spent more time grinding the flat on the file than cutting the dove tail. Thanks for all the input. But no one has come up with a foolproof excuse to buy a tool grinder that my wife will understand. Maybe just the truth. i am a toolahallic.
- tornitore45
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Re: dovetail on a DTI
Dear, you remember when I repaired grandma chandelier with a fractured casting, and the lever extension for the inversion table, and the gear in the bread machine, and the coffee grinder impeller, and made a replacement for the pressure cooker valve that took a spin in the dispose-all, and all the wonderful gadget I make to make your life easier?????????
Well sometime you really need to shape a special tool, one not available on the market, just to make the things that makes you happy. A tool grinder is just that sort of small investment that pays big dividends and also make me happy. Do not fuss in the kitchen tonight, let's go to that good Northern Italian restaurant you like for dinner.
HOW IS THAT FOR AN ARGUMENT FOR YOUR WIFE?
Well sometime you really need to shape a special tool, one not available on the market, just to make the things that makes you happy. A tool grinder is just that sort of small investment that pays big dividends and also make me happy. Do not fuss in the kitchen tonight, let's go to that good Northern Italian restaurant you like for dinner.
HOW IS THAT FOR AN ARGUMENT FOR YOUR WIFE?
Mauro Gaetano
in Austin TX
in Austin TX
Re: dovetail on a DTI
I just buy so many tools and fix so many things she has no idea what might be new or what they're for.
Basically, I have adopted her favourite tactic: Keep 'em confused.
Basically, I have adopted her favourite tactic: Keep 'em confused.
Re: dovetail on a DTI
I literally laughed out loud at this, this is my scene as well. Nice to be among fellow toolaholics.Torch wrote:I just buy so many tools and fix so many things she has no idea what might be new or what they're for.
Basically, I have adopted her favourite tactic: Keep 'em confused.
Any reason is a good one to buy a new tool.
George
Re: dovetail on a DTI
When I suddenly became "between jobs" about 25 years ago, I started a garage business re-sharpening threading chasers for Rigid, Oster, etc. pipe threading machines. At that point I purchased a "well used" Delta Tool Maker grinder. Eventually it paid for itself and the proceeds from the grinding service fed the family until I was no longer "between jobs".
I don't recommend this approach as an excuse, but the point is, that I am glad that the Delta is still here, as it is used very frequently for odd jobs like sharpening HSS and CI lathe tools and with the help of the Polychoke fixture, drills and mills. Not to mention MT shanks when the need arises. Or "D" reamers. Or slitting saws.
(Wow, I didn't see how poorly dressed the wheel was. YIKES!)( And yes, that is a change gear from the Atlas used for the indexer.)
Or the occasional paper cutter blade.
--earlgo
I don't recommend this approach as an excuse, but the point is, that I am glad that the Delta is still here, as it is used very frequently for odd jobs like sharpening HSS and CI lathe tools and with the help of the Polychoke fixture, drills and mills. Not to mention MT shanks when the need arises. Or "D" reamers. Or slitting saws.
(Wow, I didn't see how poorly dressed the wheel was. YIKES!)( And yes, that is a change gear from the Atlas used for the indexer.)
Or the occasional paper cutter blade.
--earlgo
Before you do anything, you must do something else first. - Washington's principle.