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Re: Loctite

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Harold_V wrote: Glyptal

Harold
As in the paint?

I remember reading back in the 70s & 80s of using it to paint the interior surfaces of engine blocks, but not as a thread locking compound. But in that time frame Loctite was obviously in use. Mind you the safety wiring of header bolts was commonplace.
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revrnd wrote:
Harold_V wrote: Glyptal

Harold
As in the paint?
My only exposure to Glyptal was in the early portion of my training as a machinist (1957) when it was used routinely when repairs of some nature were accomplished. As an example, it was required that a Dutch pin be installed with Glyptal. It was used exactly the same way LocTite is used today. All I saw was purple in color, although I expect it was dyed, so it could be most any color. Incidentally, if memory serves, LocTite became the lock of choice in that facility shortly after I became aware of the existence of Glyptal, so my exposure was severely limited.

Thanks to your post, I am now aware that Glyptal does, indeed, make paints, used for sealing purposes.

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ken572 wrote:Well, The one from the past that I learned about,
and used when I worked at Horlicks Malted Milk
Company,
was Triple Boiled Linseed Oil,
and was used with and/or without gaskets on
machine fits on boilers components as well as
fastener locking, and anything you did not want
to leak or come loose. This stuff was unbelievable.
Ken. :wink: :)
so you can use blo for making sealed joints? I have a gallon of very old blo, but I don't think it's triple boiled...
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Re: Loctite

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Glyptal was a common coating for the inside of industrial gearboxes and heavy truck differentials and transmissions. Might still be. I wonder if a side benefit was demobilizing any cuttings or grinding residue and sand that was stuck to the castings.

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Re: Loctite

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I am confused by the term "triple boiled"
There is boiling and there is boiling for a long time an of course there is boiling and cooling repeatedly.
I know that the boiling of Linseed Oil changes the property and allow the oil to dry (in a lifetime or two).

So how is the process of triple boiling, and does it result in a faster drying time?
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Re: Loctite

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triple boiled is a misnomer as it was assumed the oil was thickened by boiling and letting cool to thicken it. according to the manf. it is heat polymerized to thicken it. a common and modern use is on gaskets for steam turbines. i say modern because I remember using it on a liberty ship turbine that was installed in co gen plant in the early 80,s

tr3 manf still sells it.

http://www.tr3global.com/
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Re: Loctite

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f350ca wrote:Glyptal was a common coating for the inside of industrial gearboxes and heavy truck differentials and transmissions. Might still be. I wonder if a side benefit was demobilizing any cuttings or grinding residue and sand that was stuck to the castings.

Greg
It may have been Greg. I seem to recall the articles about engine rebuilding saying this "sealed" the block. Also I think it mentioned speeding up the drain back of oil splashing around in the lifter valley.

Maybe if I call up the guys @ Hendrick Engines, they'll fill me in to their block prep. LOL

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Re: Loctite

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hammermill wrote:triple boiled is a misnomer as it was assumed the oil was thickened by boiling and letting cool to thicken it. according to the manf. it is heat polymerized to thicken it. a common and modern use is on gaskets for steam turbines. i say modern because I remember using it on a liberty ship turbine that was installed in co gen plant in the early 80,s

tr3 manf still sells it.

http://www.tr3global.com/
Hammer, :D
I first used it on our Delaval Steam Turbine
rebuild at Horlicks Malted Milk Company in
1969 during our Boiler Shut Down. The can
stated Triple Boiled on the white and yellow
label.
In order to distill and condense three times
they were boiling it each time in the process. :lol:

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Have seen squished nuts,(ouch), center punched threads, bolts smacked on the end to upset, and dog knots put on the end of a bolt to stop the nut coming loose. How many old timers put on "dog knots?"
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Re: Loctite

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when I was in the U.S. Air Force most anything with a thread had a small hole in it so it could be wired in place they used .032 dia. wire.
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krankie frankie wrote:when I was in the U.S. Air Force most anything with a thread had a small hole in it so it could be wired in place they used .032 dia. wire.
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Re: Loctite

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tornitore45 wrote:I am confused by the term "triple boiled"
There is boiling and there is boiling for a long time an of course there is boiling and cooling repeatedly.
I know that the boiling of Linseed Oil changes the property and allow the oil to dry (in a lifetime or two).

So how is the process of triple boiling, and does it result in a faster drying time?
I was told,
They have a closed circuit/system.
Boiler, Condensor Cooling Coils, and Tank
Boil and Vaporize
Condense to Liquid
Pump to tank. =1 cycle
Do 3 Times.
Filter it and put in the can.

When we would use it, we would apply it to both surfaces.
torqe to spec, and let it dry for 24 hours at 70 to 80 degree
room temp.

Ken. :)
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