I'm looking for some info on how to make an engraving bit for use in Aluminum with an RPM around 3500, and what IPM to use.
I tried a two flute 90° V end mill and it worked OK, but is a bit large.
I took a broken 1/8" end mill, chucked it in my drill and put it to my grinding wheel to make an approximate 30° (included) point, then I created 4 flats and honed them on a diamond plate. It worked OK too, but I was getting a bur.
I've seen engraving bits that are about as the one above, but instead have half the diameter ground off. I also have a few 60° countersinks or spotting drills I could try.
Engraving Bit
Engraving Bit
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Re: Engraving Bit
I did OK with a .010" engraving tool .005" DOC at 2 IPM with flood coolant to wash away the swarf. 3800 rpm.
That was before I did this:
http://www.chaski.org/homemachinist/vie ... ng#p217470
That was before I did this:
http://www.chaski.org/homemachinist/vie ... ng#p217470
Glenn
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Re: Engraving Bit
I've had good success making cutters like this from broken carbide drill bits.
Grind to a point as you did then grind away half the thickness.
Greg
Grind to a point as you did then grind away half the thickness.
Greg
Re: Engraving Bit
I'll give the tradition looking bits a try. It may be a challenge for me to keep it at half thickness at the point since I just have a sloppy bench grinder and will be free handing it.
Glenn, I found your post earlier, and those grinders are expensive! You've seem to have done just about, everything...
Glenn, I found your post earlier, and those grinders are expensive! You've seem to have done just about, everything...
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Re: Engraving Bit
Here is my 4-sided bit, two passes to a depth of about 10 thou. Second is the half cone about 5 thou deep. The second looks very much better in person...
About 3500 rpm and 6 ipm... The f is 1/8" high.
About 3500 rpm and 6 ipm... The f is 1/8" high.
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To measure is to know - Lord Kelvin
Disclaimer: I'm just a guy with a few machines...
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Re: Engraving Bit
These graduations were done with a cutter I ground, should have twisted the spindle to show the cutter profile.
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-pvOH ... G_0325.jpg
Greg
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-pvOH ... G_0325.jpg
Greg
Re: Engraving Bit
Hey Guys. Thanks for the insights. One thing I am considering when looking at the half conical bit - there is no relief! It worked great for one job, but today it just frosted up the aluminum. I confess, I did touch a stone to it while it was mounted in the spindle, just a few strokes on the flat and the back side. I thought I'd freshen the edge...so much for thinking...
I removed it and did some more hand work on the diamond lap. I tried to sharpen the cutting edge first by taking a few swipes on the flat, then a few on the trailing radius. I then worked to give more relief on the conical back side. I do not understand why these bits would work without relief.?
Then I put a flat on it, but at a compound angle, so there would be just a point doing the cutting. I tilted the bit to the side away from the leading edge, then back away from the flat. See what I mean?
It worked great! Better in fact. It probably works more like a micro fly cutter... It revealed that I need to work on my cnc program.
Also, there is this pesky aluminum sludge to deal with.
I removed it and did some more hand work on the diamond lap. I tried to sharpen the cutting edge first by taking a few swipes on the flat, then a few on the trailing radius. I then worked to give more relief on the conical back side. I do not understand why these bits would work without relief.?
Then I put a flat on it, but at a compound angle, so there would be just a point doing the cutting. I tilted the bit to the side away from the leading edge, then back away from the flat. See what I mean?
It worked great! Better in fact. It probably works more like a micro fly cutter... It revealed that I need to work on my cnc program.
Also, there is this pesky aluminum sludge to deal with.
Standards are so important that everyone must have their own...
To measure is to know - Lord Kelvin
Disclaimer: I'm just a guy with a few machines...
To measure is to know - Lord Kelvin
Disclaimer: I'm just a guy with a few machines...
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Re: Engraving Bit
Yes,ctwo wrote:Then I put a flat on it, but at a compound angle, so there would be just a point doing the cutting. I tilted the bit to the side away from the leading edge, then back away from the flat. See what I mean?
You've almost re-invented the industry standard for engraving cutter sharpening;-)