Been trying to get a good lathe, opinions?? 10" LOGAN FANS!!

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Been trying to get a good lathe, opinions?? 10" LOGAN FANS!!

Post by dirtcrasher1 » Tue Aug 27, 2013 7:06 pm

Hey guys,
I have an older Southbend and I cannot hold tolerances with it. I have been trying to get one from "Gold Machinery" who obviously buys out company's machines. Usually they paint them but I prefer to see them AS IS.

So, my question is, is this worth 3K plus?? I will be bringing a magnetic base and dial indicator with a .625 ground dowel pin.

Here is the link and thanks for the help.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/South-Bend-10-x ... OR:US:1123

I offered 3K, he claims he forgot "flame hardened" and the Aloris tool post and wants 3400$. I am prepared to offer 3200$ but these guys don't budge much. 1.375 thru hole the chuck is just what I need. I was looking for a Heavy 10..........

Thank you
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Post by John Evans » Tue Aug 27, 2013 7:29 pm

Looks like it has a D1 cam lock spindle ,a big plus to me. That heavy 10 with the hard bed and camlock spindle is the only SB I would ever consider buying. I prefer my Chinese gear heads myself, may have been lucky but my 12X36 Acra -Turn has been great the last 7 years.
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Post by atomarc » Tue Aug 27, 2013 8:53 pm

This subject is touchy territory. It sounds like you are dead set on American iron and the SB fits the bill plus it probably may have some nostalgic properties as well. For $3000 buck you can buy a brand new Grizzly lathe with lots of accessories. I feel that 'brand new Chinese' is better than 'Old worn out American'! A typical SB has probably seen high school shop time or something along those lines...a tough gig for sure.

It's hard to convince a dyed in the wool American iron aficionado that the offshore stuff has any merit. I won't try to do that. I had a Grizzly lathe and it worked perfectly for many years and paid for itself about a hundred times. As my dear old dad was heard to say..."take my advice and suit yourself" :D

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Post by dirtcrasher1 » Tue Aug 27, 2013 8:54 pm

Please keep the opinions coming.

I need a good lathe fast!!

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Post by revrnd » Tue Aug 27, 2013 9:29 pm

I bought this lathe a year ago:

http://www.kingcanada.com/Products.htm?CD=116&ID=2371

Similiar to the Grizzly 12 x 36

I'm a retired tool & diemaker, while my brother is a toolie running manual & CNC m/cing centers. While I was @ work a lot of guys suggested I buy a used high school lathe & mill for my shop. My brother would probably agree w/ Stuart's comment about the use/abuse a high school lathe would see.

My brother took m/c shop all thru high school. In grade 12 during his "spare" class he helped 1 of the teachers w/ his grade 9 students. I'm pretty sure he saw the abuse.

Another thing we didn't want to get into is refurbishing used equipment. Both of us are mechanically handy, but this would be a new task for us. Besides, I wanted to be able to use the equipment once it was delivered.

The only thing I wasn't happy w/ the lathe was the instructions. Grizzly's manual was much more detailed.

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Post by Richard_W » Tue Aug 27, 2013 9:49 pm

I wouldn't pay that much for it. But then I laughed during an interview when they showed me their only manual lathe. A 16" South Bend which was fresh from the Navy. I told them they needed a real lathe to support their CNC machines. Look around at the new lathes first before you decide.

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Post by dirtcrasher1 » Tue Aug 27, 2013 10:10 pm

atomarc wrote:This subject is touchy territory. It sounds like you are dead set on American iron and the SB fits the bill plus it probably may have some nostalgic properties as well. For $3000 buck you can buy a brand new Grizzly lathe with lots of accessories. I feel that 'brand new Chinese' is better than 'Old worn out American'! A typical SB has probably seen high school shop time or something along those lines...a tough gig for sure.

It's hard to convince a dyed in the wool American iron aficionado that the offshore stuff has any merit. I won't try to do that. I had a Grizzly lathe and it worked perfectly for many years and paid for itself about a hundred times. As my dear old dad was heard to say..."take my advice and suit yourself" :D

Stuart

It's not that I'm dead set, however, I always loved the heavy ten. I thought old American iron was good. I just want to spend about 3K and get a well equipped lathe that holds .001. Not .0002. I'll have to see whats available around Mass for a Grizzly and at least look into it.

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Post by blackdog » Tue Aug 27, 2013 10:53 pm

dirtcrasher1 wrote: I thought old American iron was good. I just want to spend about 3K......
It is & of that there is no doubt. If you have the capability to assess the condition the you're all set. If I had 3k burning a hole in my pocket, I would be looking for a 14" Rockwell.

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Post by SteveHGraham » Tue Aug 27, 2013 11:23 pm

Wait a long time for a deal and buy old American, or go out right now and buy new Asian.
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Post by Bill_Cook » Wed Aug 28, 2013 2:33 am

Check out Tony's advice on buying a lathe

http://www.lathes.co.uk/page2.html

I've never come across a "five jaw chuck" before.
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Post by gwerhart0800 » Wed Aug 28, 2013 8:23 am

Years ago, I spent quite a bit of time looking for an older American built lathe when I lived near Columbus, Ohio. I saw a lot of worn out stuff. One SB Heavy had so much bed wear in the area in front of the chuck that the flats on the top of the V ways were gone and the lead screw had the same issue in the same place. (I actually saw this lathe 3 times as it was sold to different people who did not know that it was so badly worn because they were newbies.) I eventually gave up and purchased a JET lathe. I would not want to purchase a lathe from a dealer without seeing it in person first. You should have a checklist of things to look for like bed/lead screw wear, bearings, motor, tooling, etc.
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Post by GlennW » Wed Aug 28, 2013 9:15 am

You might consider the diameter of work that you would be doing with a 1400 rpm max spindle speed. (plain bearing spindle...)
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