Is there a term for this? (cutting by drilling holes)

Topics include, Machine Tools & Tooling, Precision Measuring, Materials and their Properties, Electrical discussions related to machine tools, setups, fixtures and jigs and other general discussion related to amateur machining.

Moderators: GlennW, Harold_V

Post Reply
dorin
Posts: 608
Joined: Thu Nov 28, 2002 5:24 am

Is there a term for this? (cutting by drilling holes)

Post by dorin »

Some of the live steam books I have read suggest cutting parts of the frame by drilling a series of holes outside the line you wish to cut..then do the cutting.

Is there a term for that??

Thanks,
Mike
www.chaski.com
User avatar
Errol Groff
Posts: 266
Joined: Sat Aug 26, 2006 8:35 pm
Location: Preston CT

Re: Is there a term for this? (cutting by drilling holes)

Post by Errol Groff »

Chain drilling is the term I associate with the technique. Drill are easily re-sharpened and less expensive than end mills.
Errol Groff

Retired Manufacturing Technology Instructor

Webmaster for New England Model Engineering Society
http://www.neme-s.org
dly31
Posts: 1052
Joined: Sun Jun 27, 2004 11:29 pm
Location: Northeast Alabama

Re: Is there a term for this? (cutting by drilling holes)

Post by dly31 »

Somewhere I read that drilling removed the most metal per horsepower hour of any machining process. I do lots of 'chain drilling' to make cutouts in materials of a suitable thickness.
Don Young
User avatar
tornitore45
Posts: 2077
Joined: Tue Apr 18, 2006 12:24 am
Location: USA Texas, Austin

Re: Is there a term for this? (cutting by drilling holes)

Post by tornitore45 »

Is the only alternative to curved cut if you do not have a band saw or a plasma cutter. I have used serial drilling many times. I have a tinned down hack saw to separate the pieces and use a cold chisel where the saw can not go.
Mauro Gaetano
in Austin TX
User avatar
SteveHGraham
Posts: 7788
Joined: Sat Jan 17, 2009 7:55 pm
Location: Florida

Re: Is there a term for this? (cutting by drilling holes)

Post by SteveHGraham »

One of the most useful lessons I've learned is to try to get stock in sane sizes. I can't tell you how many times I've taken a huge piece of metal and turned half of it into chips just to get a small part!
Every hard-fried egg began life sunny-side up.
dorin
Posts: 608
Joined: Thu Nov 28, 2002 5:24 am

Re: Is there a term for this? (cutting by drilling holes)

Post by dorin »

Thank you everybody.

It still looks like it requires patience...but I have a feeling if I put a template over what I wanted to cut, the holes
likely help you "stay within the lines" too!
www.chaski.com
User avatar
tornitore45
Posts: 2077
Joined: Tue Apr 18, 2006 12:24 am
Location: USA Texas, Austin

Re: Is there a term for this? (cutting by drilling holes)

Post by tornitore45 »

A template would work but is a lot of work to make just for one piece.
For straigh cuts scribe a line clear from the final dimension to include the drill radius and any slop you feel to add for the ability to stay on the line when drilling at fast repetition. Walk a compass set fro drill dia + some meat + some allowance for slop, punch mark heavy and drill away.
For circular cut if the center is known and accesible you can use a compass to mark the envelope but for complex curves I aproximate with straight lines.
This operation call for many holes and is boring (pun not intended) is easy to get careless break out into another hole, seize and get hurt. No matter how repetitive the job is, do not loose you concentration.

Last piece I used this method was the crankshaft for my twin cylinder model.
Mauro Gaetano
in Austin TX
dly31
Posts: 1052
Joined: Sun Jun 27, 2004 11:29 pm
Location: Northeast Alabama

Re: Is there a term for this? (cutting by drilling holes)

Post by dly31 »

I find that drilling every other hole and then going back to drill out the in between parts works a little better for me. You can adjust the center and bit size if needed for a decent cut. Leaving a fair web between holes prevents breakout and is usually fairly easy to finish with a very narrow chisel and hammer.
Don Young
User avatar
seal killer
Posts: 4696
Joined: Sat Aug 18, 2007 10:58 pm
Location: Ozark Mountains

Re: Is there a term for this? (cutting by drilling holes)

Post by seal killer »

All--

For an arc, center the work piece under the spindle mounted on a rotary table also centered under the spindle, offset the mill table the radius of the desired arc plus half the diameter of the drill bit plus a few thousandths to allow for drilled hole oversize syndrome and drill the necessary holes then clean it up however you want. Side milling is my usual method. (Don't change the setup. Replace the drill bit with the appropriate end mill and then change the radius to reflect the diameter of the drill bit and the few thousandths left for clean up.)

I've performed this procedure all of ONE times. However, I have a job on the mill right now that will add two more arcs to that count. I figure that will make me experienced.

--Bill
You are what you write.
User avatar
steamin10
Posts: 6712
Joined: Sun Jun 08, 2003 11:52 pm
Location: NW Indiana. Close to Lake Michigan S. tip

Re: Is there a term for this? (cutting by drilling holes)

Post by steamin10 »

I have rejected chain drilling. On things like a small locomotive frame or an engine beam, cut from flat, I rely on drilling start and stop holes as big as I can fit, on the drill press, and resort to my band saw to get to the start holes and drop most of the material. I dont sweat the shapes, and once opened up, resort to a hand hacksaw, where I have thinned the blade, grinding away the back to nearly half dimension. Once hooked into the part, I can turn the saw like a jewelers saw, only making short work of 1/4 and 3/8 material, and easily turn for a contour, not available to a band saw. Light cuts and a good feel are the order of the day, as the blades can break easily if forced. Patience is the key, going for good instead of speed. Since my mill is small, most of my cutting is done with larger bits, and smoothing edges is much more enjoyable than trying to hog, and destroying the cutter.

Just what I do, your milage will vary.
Big Dave, former Millwright, Electrician, Environmental conditioning, and back yard Fixxit guy. Now retired, persuing boats, trains, and broken relics.
We have enough youth, how about a fountain of Smart. My computer beat me at chess, but not kickboxing
It is not getting caught in the rain, its learning to dance in it. People saying good morning, should have to prove it.
User avatar
refinery mike
Posts: 623
Joined: Sat Jul 02, 2011 1:54 pm

Re: Is there a term for this? (cutting by drilling holes)

Post by refinery mike »

Just a suggestion but I have found that a good sabre saw with propper blades can be used instead of chain drilling, especialy in internal cutouts where a band saw can not get. It used to be sabre saws were only sutable for wood, but I have a Bosch and have used Dewalt at work and they can do a pretty good job of cutting a slug out to allow for future machining.
User avatar
wlw-19958
Posts: 1072
Joined: Fri Dec 22, 2006 5:41 pm
Location: Lewes, DE

Re: Is there a term for this? (cutting by drilling holes)

Post by wlw-19958 »

Hi There,

If you have a blade welder, you can use a bandsaw to make
internal cuts.

Good Luck!
-Blue Chips-
Webb
Post Reply