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Re: Riser block

Posted: Wed Mar 06, 2019 3:08 pm
by bill jones
---here a link to my ordeal of lifting the head of the mill to install an 8" riser block---where I didn't have room to lift the mill from above


http://ryanbrownracing.com/Bill_Jones_Page_10.html

Re: Riser block

Posted: Wed Mar 06, 2019 4:08 pm
by BadDog
I removed the head from my most recent mill when I received it. To manage the head, I took a piece of (3/4" I think?) round stock and mounted it in the head with a collet (using a step ladder due to 8" riser). I then clamped it in the vise with a vertical v-block. And then unbolted it and left the vise managing the load and holding it vertical. Once I completed what I wanted to do with the head, I reinstalled it by reversing that procedure. The bolts to t-nuts was a bit frustrating, but not having to man handle the head made it not a huge deal.

Re: Riser block

Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2019 9:21 am
by RSG
Awesome tutorial Bill! Thanks,

Russ, your idea, like Bills is sort of what I had in mind only I was thinking wood but I like the steel idea better. Bill shows a support system on the back of the ram but you don't mention that for your method, did you support it in any way? My first thought would be a dangerous amount of stress on the spindle bearings without supporting the back.

My idea was to have a the support touching the bottom of the dovetail on the ram. If I made it out of steel as you both have I could fashion a clamping method for the dovetail ensuring it doesn't tip in any way.

Thanks for the added info guys!

Re: Riser block

Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2019 4:21 pm
by BadDog
I removed the head with the method described. I then lifted the ram and turret as an assembly with 2 straps (front/back) using a gantry.

Re: Riser block

Posted: Fri Mar 08, 2019 10:47 am
by RSG
Got it, thanks Russ!

Re: Riser block

Posted: Fri Mar 08, 2019 10:52 am
by RSG
Next question,

I just found out the manufacturer doesn't make one for my mill so I am going to...Do the long bolts hold the ram and the riser block in place with the spider or does the riser block get fastened to the pillar base separate?

Sorry if this may be a dumb question, I want to be sure.

Re: Riser block

Posted: Fri Mar 08, 2019 12:11 pm
by John Evans
Normally long bolts.

Re: Riser block

Posted: Fri Mar 08, 2019 9:06 pm
by BadDog
My 7" riser had 2 spiders and separate bolts. The turret used a standard spider and bolts.

Re: Riser block

Posted: Fri Mar 08, 2019 11:06 pm
by f350ca
My mill uses long bolts with I think its a 10 inch riser. I have some 12 inch 1/4 wall pipe if your anywhere close.

Greg

Re: Riser block

Posted: Sat Mar 09, 2019 7:46 am
by RSG
BadDog wrote: Fri Mar 08, 2019 9:06 pm My 7" riser had 2 spiders and separate bolts. The turret used a standard spider and bolts.
That's what I was wondering as some ads are showing the riser and another spider.

Re: Riser block

Posted: Sat Mar 09, 2019 7:47 am
by RSG
f350ca wrote: Fri Mar 08, 2019 11:06 pm My mill uses long bolts with I think its a 10 inch riser. I have some 12 inch 1/4 wall pipe if your anywhere close.

Greg
Thanks Greg, that's nice of you. I'll consider it if the plan I have doesn't work out but for now I might be able to get my hands on some 2" wall pipe.