I'm happy to hear all the comments of approval. I am very proud to be the new owner of this machine. I found this machine on Craigs list, nearby in Kent WA, for $3500. Took my 78 yo machinist mentor with me who use to build this type of machine for Gidding Lewis (and owns a 1916 G/L Horz.Mill). He was very impressed and would gladly trade with me. Just to note, he has every type of machine in his shop and he uses his horz. mill the most, even more than the lathe. He even pointed out that the horz. mill can be use as a lathe but he doesn't recommend it if you have a large lathe available.
A bit more on the purchase. Ultimately the seller, being a great guy, offered to load and haul this 10,000 lb mill to my new shop, 125 miles away. He will leave it on his trailer while he goes to the Ocean on a week end and while I unload it. (that will be another story and pictures).
Why do I prefer the horizontal over a vertical? Several reasons. The very large work area. The greater spindle travel (this on has several ft), plus the additional table travel. The column height (Y). Spindle size (3"). And finally, when I supervised machine shop operation (without actually being a machinist, yep, that was me.) It always seemed that the Horizontal Mill operator could always sit on a stool while the Vertical Mill operator stood and had to do a lot of reaching to operate the controls or observe the work in progress. (just my thoughts and preference)
Yes, it came with a tail stock and a very large (~ 8" dia) face mill head. No angle plates but as a newbe machinest, that will be my first project. I plan to fabricate them from 1" steel plate and the face the square with the face mill. I'm thinking of making at least two so I can take advantage of the rotary table and have more than one project on the table at a time. I also know I'm going to need bigger and more tee nuts and longer studs, along with parallels.
My machinist mentor, Roy, now tells me that I will spend more money on tooling than I did for the mill. Well I already have a lot for my smaller Fray mill (indexer head, etc.), but the ultimately won't do for the very large jobs. At least I can go to Boeng Surplus, here in Renton not have to by-pass tooling that just seems too large for my needs.
File comment: Scharmann controls (very centrally located, not much need to run around the machine.)
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