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hi,
I am a new member (from Belgium !). I recently bought a milling machine. Brand: Ko-Shin type: KF-VO-A2F. Manufacturing date :september 1979. This machine was made in Taiwan. It looks like some american machine (see picture). Have you ever heard of this brand?
I cannot find information about this machine (instruction manual, electrical diagrams...). Can you help me?
Excuse my poor english language...
thanks !

Hello polmila---and welcome to the forum.

I'm sorry to say, I am not familiar with your machine, nor have I seen one like it under that name here in the US. That may imply that they were never imported to the US----but someone here may have some knowledge of the machines.

Harold

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hello Harold_V,
by making some search on the forum I've found this link:http://usedmillingmachine.net/sale/enco-7-x-27-10-speed-vertical-milling-machine/. My machine looks like this Enco model: same design, same head, 10 speeds (5 pulleys and 2 motor speeds), same table, same motor speed (but not the same voltage, mine is 380 V/220 Volts 3 phases induction motor, normal use in Europe). The Ko-Shin machine looks directly "inspired" from this Enco Model...
I think if I had some information about this machine it can help me.
Thanks,

Ok, guys! Anyone familiar with this machine? enco-7-x-27-10-speed-vertical-milling-machine

If so, could you help our new found friend?

Harold

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Looks a bit like the Griz G3102.
http://www.grizzly.com/products/Vertical-Mill/G3102

Manual here:
http://cdn0.grizzly.com/manuals/g3102_m.pdf

Dave J.

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thanks !
this manual can help me in a first step.
Claudy

I am in the process of fully (essentially) restoring and repowering essentially the same machine. I'd be glad to exchange information with you. Mine is a Kao Fong, but looking at yours, the fine details are the same. Including the model #.

This Grizzly http://www.grizzly.com/products/G0695 is much closer than the one mentioned earlier as it has the "ram head"

A manual is available at that link.

I have seen this same mill under the following brands:

Jet JVM840
Sharp KFVD A2F.
Kao Fong
Ko-Shin

Here are some links

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/stevenson.engineers/lsteve/hidden/kf004.jpg

http://www.smokstak.com/forum/showthread.php?t=47508

http://plsntcov.8m.com/JetMill/Jet.html


I have started putting my pictures up on flickr here:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/12814289@N08/



any particular questions I can help with?

None of the information I have seen or links that were attached will give you an electrical diagram. I plan on (haven't got to it yet, but will before too long) completely reverse engineer and make a complete electrical diagram for one of these machines. I am going to design a new electrical system with a VFD drive, but I thought I'd start by figuring out how the original electrical system functioned.

hi rakort,
wonderfull ! ! I am very happy to find somebody who has the same problem I have !
I've found a manual on the Enco site. This machine is much closer than the Griz G3102 mentioned by mechanicalmagic.
Take a look here:
http://www.use-enco.com/CGI/INPAGE?PMPAGE=Machinery/manuals.htm
The closer model is:
http://www.use-enco.com/Machinery/100-1527.pdf
You can see the electrical drawings starting on page 68 and following.
I hope this can help you too.
For the moment I cannot start the "restoration" (not sure this is the good term in english...) of the mill (no time). It will be for the next months but meantime it will be a pleasure to help you (if I can...) ! and... I will follow your restoration with the highest attention.
Thanks for your help !

"rebuild" of course and not "restoration"...
I dont know why but I cannot download the pdf manual of the Grrizzly.... I've tried to upload the manual of the Enco but the file is too big !
If you cannot download the file I can send you an email.

Very strange the model number of both machine is the same and the tade mark different !

No bad surprise during your rebuild ?
It seems that this kind of machine was of good quality. I think it was a copy of US equipment. Somebody wrote that this machine was a good copy of the little Bridgeport... do you think so ?
regards,
Claudy,

I am happy with the quality of the machine. Being that it was built 30 years ago I suspect the quality standards are much higher than what is coming out of china now. I have not had any bad surprises so far. Have you been able to see my pictures on flickr?

I will send you a private message with my email addy and I will send the manual over your way.

hi,
yes I have seen your pictures ! these can be very helpfull for me !
Did you read the manual of the Enco machine. What do you think about if you compare to our machine ?
Claudy