Your Mill as a Key Cutting Machine

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Re: Your Mill as a Key Cutting Machine

Post by redneckalbertan »

I figuered a product like the one below would be good for rentla property, no need for them to have a key give them a code when they leave change it. You're the only one that would need a key.

http://consumer.schlage.com/Products/Pa ... mber=FE595 CAM 619 GEO
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Re: Your Mill as a Key Cutting Machine

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ctwo wrote:Had a locksmith tell us kwikset was not re-keyable and that schlage was a better lock. Maybe he just dealt with schlage...
That's not true, I've rekeyed a number of Kwikset locks. Shlage is generally regarded as "better", but not for that reason.
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Re: Your Mill as a Key Cutting Machine

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Earlier I said I could rekey a Kwikset or Schlage but I'm not a locksmith. There was a reason it was called Kwikset and that would be more known on the higher grade than the ones i encountered in houses.
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Re: Your Mill as a Key Cutting Machine

Post by Bolsterman »

My scan on Schlage vs Kwikset:

Schlage is, or used to be, a tighter tolerance lock, and harder to pick. It has more, finer gradations of pin depths, and requires tighter tolerances for the key. A better lock to use when you need master, sub, and change keys.

Kwikset is a looser tolerance lock, with fewer pin depths, wider "pin shelf"s on the keys (allowing more slop) and easier to pick. Easier and faster to work with, but less secure.

There is a new sort of Kwikset lock, the "SmartKey" lock, which has a small rectangular slot to the left of the keyhole, that allows quick and easy re-keying of the lock. My pro locksmith friend tells me it's full of delicate levers and gears, rather than pins, that they cause loads of problems, and to stay far away from them. Apparently Schlage was the first to try the new system, went to market with it briefly, saw all the trouble it caused, and immediately stopped making them. Now Kwikset does.

See:

http://www.consumerreports.org/cro/vide ... 416866843/

Sounds really secure, doesn't it?

Now watch how you can easily bypass a SmartKey lock in a few seconds:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sR-h64WwfW8

Either way, I run into so many Kwikset locks, I want to extend my "mill key cutter" to Kwikset locks too. Now to hunt down all the pin size info.
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