New big boiler build

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Oktrainboys
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New big boiler build

Post by Oktrainboys » Fri Dec 30, 2016 2:14 pm

Well, the time has come. Tintern Abbey, Builder John Haines 6" to the foot RHDR Green Goddess class replica is in need of a new boiler. The 12" barrel with steel tubes boiler finally experienced a leaking flue on Thursday 12.28.16. She is a spritely 34 years old. We want to have an all new boiler built using the pulled existing boiler as an on build-site pattern. Non superheated and perhaps this time with copper rather than steel flues. Only need the boiler build, no tear down or re-installation will be needed. Wasatch and Godshall's of course are on our radar but am soliciting recommendations from the folks on this board 0f skilled boilermakers in the hobby that would be GEOGRAPHICALLY CLOSER to our Mill Creek Railway in OKC, Oklahoma. We would DELIVER the boiler to the boilermaker. A large boiler for the 7.5" gauge. And Thank You in advance for the tremendous knowledge that is ever present on this board!
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Re: New big boiler build

Post by Soot n' Cinders » Sat Dec 31, 2016 5:43 pm

You won't be disappointed with Marty Knox!
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Re: New big boiler build

Post by Oktrainboys » Sat Dec 31, 2016 6:02 pm

Isn't Marty Knox in Texas??? We are thinking that the shell is very much re-usable as it is VERY thick, but everything else must be new, including inner firebox.
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Re: New big boiler build

Post by Marty_Knox » Sun Jan 01, 2017 12:29 am

Oktrainboys wrote:Isn't Marty Knox in Texas???
I have been in Michigan since 1990, when I moved north to work at the Huckleberry Railroad in Flint, Michigan.
I lived in Texas exactly 4 years, arriving January 6, 1986, and leaving January 6, 1990.

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Re: New big boiler build

Post by Fender » Sun Jan 01, 2017 8:58 am

Question: are you basing the decision to replace the whole boiler (vs. replacing just the tubes) on its age, or on the overall condition of the boiler? I have a mogul with a steel boiler that originally had steel tubes, and the tubes failed after several years. It was re-tubed with copper and is still going strong. With the cheap availability of ultrasonic thickness testing equipment nowadays, it's easy to check.
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Re: New big boiler build

Post by Moron » Sun Jan 01, 2017 11:08 am

Godshalls is always great. Would highly recommend

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Re: New big boiler build

Post by Oktrainboys » Sun Jan 01, 2017 11:31 am

Hi Dan, the boiler shell is very thick and it can likely be re-used. Everything else will need to be replaced. I would like to find a reputable boiler maker in the hobby that is close by to Oklahoma.

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Re: New big boiler build

Post by Oktrainboys » Mon Jan 02, 2017 10:45 am

So nobody on this board can offer a solid recommendation for a boilermaker in this hobby that lives in Texas, Kansas or Missouri??

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Re: New big boiler build

Post by rrnut-2 » Mon Jan 02, 2017 2:24 pm

For a project of that size, distance should not figure into the equation. That's what they make delivery trucks for! Heck, I would deliver a boiler to anywhere in the US and Canada.

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Re: New big boiler build

Post by Oktrainboys » Mon Jan 02, 2017 3:38 pm

Not exactly sure what point or inference you are attempting to make, but your comment is irrelevant to this topic and I find it irritating. Note to moderators, please feel free to delete my post here and the one above this post.

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Re: New big boiler build

Post by Soot n' Cinders » Mon Jan 02, 2017 4:18 pm

There aren't many professional boilermakers for the hobby in the country. I don't know of any in Texas, Kansas, or Missouri. Compared to the cost of the boiler itself, freight shipping is not that expensive and opens up some of the best boilermakers in the country as an option.
-Tristan

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Re: New big boiler build

Post by Mike Walsh » Mon Jan 02, 2017 8:55 pm

Continental Boiler in St. Louis does boilers. They are currently doing work for the Wabash, Frisco and Pacific Railroad. Also, they are doing the Chicago and Northwestern 1385. They also did the boiler for the Monticello Railway Museum's Southern 401.

I suggest reaching out to Marty Knox. He does great work and from what I understand, is very easy to work with. Yes, it's a significant distance from Oklahoma, but as someone stated, that's what delivery trucks are for. Or even better -- drive on up there, and hit up the several steam operations in the general region as part of your trip, and meet a great guy!

Ray Pennell of Steam Age USA was in Texas, but he passed away a while back.

One of the vendors that you mentioned in your original post does great work in the 1.5" scale market from what I have heard and seen through social media, and so he has my recommendation.

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