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Lap seam, riveted boilers

Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2017 2:58 pm
by John Landrum
I have one of the above lap seam, riveted boilers on an engine I am restoring. My question is, how to check the structural integrity of the rivets to know whether or not they are solid inside their holes or look like an hour glass and are just waiting the opportunity to become a high speed projectile when the boiler is put under steam pressure. Any thoughts?

Re: Lap seam, riveted boilers

Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2017 4:46 pm
by Marty_Knox
I would be more concerned about the lap seam itself. You can use dye penetrant to check for cracking.

Re: Lap seam, riveted boilers

Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2017 4:57 pm
by Soot n' Cinders
My question is how many rows of rivets are in the seam? As long as it's more than one, I would think a hydro test would be a good starting point

Re: Lap seam, riveted boilers

Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2017 5:48 pm
by Dick_Morris
Bore scopes that you can use with a cell phone are cheap and can be used to inspect the interior.

How big of a boiler are you talking about? Steel or copper? What is the design (i.e., locomotive, vertical fire tube, or ?)?

Re: Lap seam, riveted boilers

Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2017 11:19 am
by NP317
Best test method is probably ultrasound.
I'm not sure what modern improvements offer, but "shear-wave ultrasound" used to be the chosen method for looking "sideways" into rivet seams.
~RN

Re: Lap seam, riveted boilers

Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2017 1:36 am
by John Landrum
All good info guy's! To fill in the blanks, the boiler is for an 18" gauge locomotive and is about 6 feet long (the pressure part) there are three rows of rivets on the engineers side of the boiler and they run the length of the boiler from the rear tube sheet to the smoke box front. I would guess the diameter of the rivets at a minimum to be 1/2" the heads are conical and about 1/2 dollar size. I will post some photos of the boiler seam tomorrow.