Woodinville Shops

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NP317
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Re: Woodinville Shops

Post by NP317 » Thu Sep 19, 2019 8:17 pm

We need signs the say:
"Trespassers will be Violated."
RN

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Re: Woodinville Shops

Post by Glenn Brooks » Tue Sep 24, 2019 2:37 am

Just for fun, fired up the Ottaway yesterday to take a few runs down (around) the mainline. I decided to try to capture the sounds of the steam engine as it worked it’s way around a typical passenger run. Interestingly, running north, out of the yard, as in this video, the loco starts uphill on a 2% grade. The rails are wet with rain. So I had a lot of wheel slippage right away. And some trouble maintaining momentum- lots of torque just cracking the throttle. Once we reached the top of the grade, at the pass, around the first set of curves, it’s flat to down hill, so ghosting on the throttle- then pulling hard through the yard, and building speed to make up time. Lots of fun, and learning more with each run... hope you enjoy the ‘sounds of steam’... and stopped for the photo op at “Portage Pass”.

https://youtu.be/wty4VkhOrpc

Glenn
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Re: Woodinville Shops

Post by Pontiacguy1 » Tue Sep 24, 2019 10:06 am

Very nice railroad!! Impressive.
Maybe you should investigate building a working sander for this locomotive. Harry Bean used to have working sanders on his 1 1/2" 2-8-0, and they were disguised as tanks under the running boards, with manually activated release valves that would dump sand on the track. One for each side. you could do something similar, but use your dome for the sand storage. On this size of a locomotive, the tubes could be made large enough that clogging should be too much of an issue. Sure would help on those wet rails.

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Re: Woodinville Shops

Post by NP317 » Tue Sep 24, 2019 11:11 am

Really nice!
I remember a lunch meeting several years ago when you were telling us of the railroad you were wanting to build.
You are a doer!
R

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Re: Woodinville Shops

Post by Glenn Brooks » Sun Dec 08, 2019 8:51 pm

Saturday, December 7th. Grand time with our local 15” gauge railway working group end of year meeting and steam up. More like a fun steam up and express run, with some discussion thrown in at the end. Nice video of the board members traveling over Grizzly Pass on the Northern Express. Heart pounding, edge of your seat, high pressure steam drama, as a heavily loaded train struggles to depart from a brief coaling stop in the yards. Slippery, wet rails. Wait for it! Mid video.

https://youtu.be/tkpXfU19vEQ

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Re: Woodinville Shops

Post by curtis cutter » Mon Dec 09, 2019 9:55 am

Glenn,

This is very impressive. The kids most absolutely love your train. I also like how you created the dry area under your deck.

Gregg
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Just let go of it, it will eventually unplug itself.

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Re: Woodinville Shops

Post by rkcarguy » Mon Dec 09, 2019 12:21 pm

Looks like fun Glenn! Definitely some wheel slippage there, indeed it might be time to play with a sander.

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Re: Woodinville Shops

Post by Kimball McGinley » Tue Dec 10, 2019 4:09 pm

I had to stop watching when the wheels just spun wildly, over and over again. Once you move from static friction to sliding friction, spinning the wheels faster does not help. If the throttle cannot be modulated, maybe the cylinder cocks can help?
What was the name of the British loco that damaged itself in a wild wheel slip incident?

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Re: Woodinville Shops

Post by Glenn Brooks » Tue Dec 10, 2019 4:28 pm

Kimball, Alas, this area of the track is on a slight grade. heavy rain on steel rail, wet wheels, and leaf tannin from the fall leaves little choice - crack the throttle back and forth to build up a bit of speed, or stay in the yard. Alas, the real problem is low coefficient of friction between cast iron drivers and wet steel rail - far to common even in 1:1 scale.

Unfortunately, opening the cylinder cocks doesn’t help any. Just blows off quite a bit of steam.
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Re: Woodinville Shops

Post by rkcarguy » Wed Dec 11, 2019 5:38 pm

Glenn's track soon :wink:
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Re: Woodinville Shops

Post by Glenn Brooks » Tue Apr 07, 2020 1:22 am

Hello All,

We decided to cut short winter backshops work on Oahu at the Hawaii Railway Society because of the virus.

-> -> Hey Sam, hope you are doing well with the Quarantine! Stay safe out there!

So returned to Washington early and went directly into quarantine. The Governor put Washington in pretty deep lock down a few days after we arrived home, so haven’t been out of the yard except to walk the dog around the block in a month now. Like many, we’re in one of the high risk groups. So you do what you can do. Be safe, watch out for others, contribute where you can..

Decided to “Fight The Bast@#d” (virus) in the shop, by accomplishing a small steady little string of projects in the shop, one at a time, and learning something new with each little bit of work. So now, my focus is on a daily win and learning something new each time.

So far, retrofitted an old Atlas lantern tool post knurling bar to fit my big lathes’s QCTP mount,
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Turned some threads and figured out how to use my old dividing head to mill down a nice little square sided bolt to replace one that broke on the old Dalton lathe last year, - only a hundred years old....
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and got the old SB steady rest set up (for the first time) to prep some old mining cart wheels for new axles, and had to turn down and knurl (with my new old knurling tool)a replacement capnut to hold the steady rest swing arm together.
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Tiny little outcomes, but satisfying to finish up all these loose ends, one a day. And learn a little something new along the way.
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Re: Woodinville Shops

Post by Glenn Brooks » Fri Apr 17, 2020 12:34 am

Here’s another small win, sort of.

Decided to fab up a trolley to hang my chain hoist on my shop made gantry crane. Could have bought one from HF, for 60 bucks, but we are on lock down. So... not going to the store, so, let’s make,it! Three days latter...

Ended up as proud owner of a tapered and threaded wheel turning fixture to hold the trolly wheels in place while making chips, actually iron filings and a lot of gray dust...

Naturally, only had a 3/4 x 10 tap on hand. No die. no 3/4l threaded bolts to use as go-no go gauges. So started from scratch, by grinding a single point turning tool, then turned down a length of 1.5” round stock to hold in the chuck. Then turned a 3/4” axle segment with slight taper and threads on the end, to hold each wheel. Finally, after several attempts, made up giant nut and a compression spacer to hold the wheel in place for the lathe work. I initially wanted the spacer so I could mount up different width wheels. Some of my 12” gauge wheels have 3” and 4” width treads.

Here’s the result. First gen design.

Also later, I plan on using this to turn some inch and half scale wheels (3/4” axles ends)for my 7 1/2” gauge rail bike build.

I want to make similar fixtures to turn 7/8” and 1” axle bores on some 12” gauge equipment. Might make a more simple design for those, with a stud to grip in the chuck, and tapered bore, threaded right into the end to accept a machine screw or bolt.

The pictures show one of the cast iron wheels on the stud, with the tread and back and front machining already done.
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Motive power : 1902 A.S.Campbell 4-4-0 American - 12 5/8" gauge, 1955 Ottaway 4-4-0 American 12" gauge

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