My Southern Ms4 Tender Project

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Mike McCotter
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My Southern Ms4 Tender Project

Post by Mike McCotter » Wed Sep 30, 2015 12:59 pm

Hello Everyone,

This is my first real post, so here goes. Having been a member of this board since 2007, I decided to post some photos of my tender that is near completion. There are still a few parts to be made, but after that the real fun begins, painting. The engine is about 75% complete and with the tender painted and numbered, I will be able to concentrate on finishing it.

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Re: My Southern Ms4 Tender Project

Post by Mike McCotter » Wed Sep 30, 2015 1:06 pm

Here are a few more photos.
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Re: My Southern Ms4 Tender Project

Post by SilverSanJuan » Wed Sep 30, 2015 1:21 pm

WOW! That's some beautiful work, Mike. How about some pictures of the engine?

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Re: My Southern Ms4 Tender Project

Post by JKreider » Wed Sep 30, 2015 1:59 pm

Mike:

Very nice!

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Re: My Southern Ms4 Tender Project

Post by Trainman4602 » Wed Sep 30, 2015 2:19 pm

Hi Mike

The tender look fabulous! Can't wait to see in behind the locomotive.
ALLWAYS OPERATING MY TRAIN IN A SAFE MANNER USING AUTOMATIC AIR BRAKES

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Re: My Southern Ms4 Tender Project

Post by Harold_V » Wed Sep 30, 2015 2:54 pm

Wow!
I've always been detail oriented, so your presentation is very welcome, as you've done an exemplary job.

Thanks for sharing.

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Re: My Southern Ms4 Tender Project

Post by GS14403 » Wed Sep 30, 2015 4:35 pm

Oh my goodness, that is one sweet piece of work!

Looks like 1-1/2" scale, maybe? Are the re-railing frogs bought or did you make them? Need a couple for my tender and yours look like they would be right at home on it.

Thanks for the photo's and any construction details you could share with us would be greatly appreciated.

Donald

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Re: My Southern Ms4 Tender Project

Post by Mike McCotter » Wed Sep 30, 2015 10:19 pm

Thanks to all for your kind compliments.
Todd, I have a few old photos of the engine that I will post soon.
Donald, Yes it is 1.6 scale. I machined the rerailing frogs from aluminum bar stock. The real ones were laying around a section house at the railroad I worked for, so I took photos, measurements, and made sketches. They are close but a pattern for both (inside and outside) might be better.
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Re: My Southern Ms4 Tender Project

Post by Dave_Johnson » Thu Oct 01, 2015 1:32 pm

Nice! Hope to see it run soon.

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Re: My Southern Ms4 Tender Project

Post by Jawn » Thu Oct 01, 2015 2:22 pm

That's a work of art!

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Re: My Southern Ms4 Tender Project

Post by Rwilliams » Sat Oct 03, 2015 10:24 am

A nice brass tender always looks impressive. Almost a shame to paint it.

Very few of us venture into the rerailing frog area as it involves much tedious work with angles and curves. When done, a frog looks impressive on the tender frame or secreted away in the tool box of a caboose.

The tender trucks appear to the the Railroad Supply or Railroad Warehouse Andrews trucks which in the past were supplied with soft metal or aluminum end block spring retainers. Their life span was never very long if the locomotive was operated on a regular basis. They had a bad habit of being forced out by the spring pressures and replacement was always part of locomotive maintenance.

Since the end block spring retainers were not shaped properly to begin with, I made a master pattern of the correct shape which is much more robust in design that looks like the real deal. Sent the master pattern to Brad Bluth of Model Rail Castings where he made a mold and lost wax bronze castings soon followed. A look at his website will show the castings that will certainly kick up those beautiful trucks on your tender.

I kept the decent original spring retainers on the inside of the spring sets, where they will never be seen, and installed the new castings on the outside ends where they would be seen to the best effect.

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Re: My Southern Ms4 Tender Project

Post by Dan Willey » Sat Oct 03, 2015 2:11 pm

Mike,

Beautiful!

Rwilliams.... I am pretty sure Mike fabricated the trucks from scratch with weldments. Here is a close up picture of the truck I took while visiting Mike's shop.

Dan
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