oil fire box door for 1 1/2" loco

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oil fire box door for 1 1/2" loco

Postby Bob Chamberlain » Tue Aug 08, 2017 11:10 am

Does anyone out there have or no were I, could obtain a oil fire box door assembly. please help, this would of course be in 1.5 scale or 1.6. thanks so much Bob

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Re: oil fire box door for 1 1/2" loco

Postby LivingLegend » Wed Aug 09, 2017 3:05 am

David Moore has 1.5" scale Franklin butterfly style (16"x20" prototype) firedoor. The castings are scale and are lost wax.

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Re: oil fire box door for 1 1/2" loco

Postby makinsmoke » Wed Aug 09, 2017 7:58 am

The butterfly doors are for coal. There are at least three types of doors for oil fired locos.
There was an oblong job that sat vertically with a damper at the bottom, the SP type Donald (SP14443's) dad made castings for and a Santa Fe type that had a round plate and cross brace that hinged from the right. The latter two did not have integral dampers. The common thing about all three is they all had small round holes one could peep in to see the fire color.

Other than Donald's I thought I remember Railroad Supply selling one. Surely if Chet ran oil he would have had a proper fire door on his locos. Ah. B-5155. Maybe someone has a photo, and Steve can advise if the castings are available?

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Re: oil fire box door for 1 1/2" loco

Postby makinsmoke » Wed Aug 09, 2017 8:08 am

About midway down this post is Donald's dad's firedoor. Sure is pretty.

viewtopic.php?f=45&t=98257&p=310558&hilit=GS1+finishing+up+the+hard+way#p310558

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Re: oil fire box door for 1 1/2" loco

Postby cbrew » Wed Aug 09, 2017 8:18 am

makinsmoke wrote:The butterfly doors are for coal. There are at least three types of doors for oil fired locos.
There was an oblong job that sat vertically with a damper at the bottom,
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this is the type i am going to fab up. the damp is useful on my loco, anyone have good pictures?

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Re: oil fire box door for 1 1/2" loco

Postby Bob Chamberlain » Wed Aug 09, 2017 8:25 am

Thanks for the help, have contacted railroad supply and he has nothing available, David moores door is very nice but makinsmoke, is right this is for coal. That being said how do I get in touch with this GS1 Donald guy let me no thanks. the photos you(makinsmoke) provided are what I am looking for .

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Re: oil fire box door for 1 1/2" loco

Postby makinsmoke » Wed Aug 09, 2017 8:27 am

And here is one our friend Jack built for a K4:
viewtopic.php?f=8&t=76185&p=95122&hilit=Fire+door+oil#p95122

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Re: oil fire box door for 1 1/2" loco

Postby makinsmoke » Wed Aug 09, 2017 8:35 am

Well. Guess I left the page without posting.

I had Donald's username wrong.

It's GS14403. I suspect you could PM him.

Chris, the "flat" styles typically had a damper in the bottom of the fire pan below the rear sheet. Santa Fe in particular had a lever next to the firing valves to open and close it by raising or lowering.

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Re: oil fire box door for 1 1/2" loco

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Re: oil fire box door for 1 1/2" loco

Postby cbrew » Wed Aug 09, 2017 8:43 am

makinsmoke wrote:Chris, the "flat" styles typically had a damper in the bottom of the fire pan below the rear sheet. Santa Fe in particular had a lever next to the firing valves to open and close it by raising or lowering.
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i understand that. this is to solve a specific issue with the use i set my propane burner.
because i used a baffle plate. the loco will tend to "howl" when pulling hard (at or near full throttle). the howling goes away by opening the door.
so the idea. with using a weighted damper door, this heavy draft will pull the damper open when its needing the extra draft.
with careful design, I believe i can run a pilot light assembly through this opening :)
plus i want to lost that giant allen models door :)
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Re: oil fire box door for 1 1/2" loco

Postby makinsmoke » Wed Aug 09, 2017 8:53 am

Yep, I haven't called and spent some phone time with Marty yet, but an thinking maybe he can build one with a round hole instead of square?

I suspect he'll do about anything if you throw enough Presidents at him...

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Re: oil fire box door for 1 1/2" loco

Postby cbrew » Wed Aug 09, 2017 8:55 am



perfect, I need to bug Grant on this :)
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