0-6-0 L9 Switcher, differences

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Re: 0-6-0 L9 Switcher, differences

Post by rkcarguy » Fri Oct 18, 2019 4:08 pm

https://www.p-b-l.com/gallery/9-464.html
This K-27(model) is a beauty.
I could never model an NG inboard wheel steamer on my RR, it would look too out of place as the proper gage in my scale would only be 6".

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Re: 0-6-0 L9 Switcher, differences

Post by 0351 » Fri Oct 18, 2019 6:25 pm

Good point with the driver’s being separated and concealed, it would make it easer to laser cut them.
The FP&V RR was an awesome accomplishment of what people dedicated to the hobby can achieve. Harlock did a great video on the story of the FP&V. Interestingly Peters dad built an 0-6-0.
https://youtu.be/UeS3DPr1Nsw

Tom millers K36, watch the sparks fly when he opens up the throttle!
https://youtu.be/L_k0MuNRaM8

LoL! This thread has came along way from a small 0-6-0 to the 2-8-2.
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Re: 0-6-0 L9 Switcher, differences

Post by rkcarguy » Fri Oct 18, 2019 7:45 pm

I won't be having the turn radii to suit a 2-8-2, even one with the drivers as tightly nested as they do on those NG locomotives, so I can only dream.
Something in their coal in NZ and other countries makes it burn like that, I forgot what it is it was discussed in another thread here.

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Re: 0-6-0 L9 Switcher, differences

Post by Harold_V » Sat Oct 19, 2019 3:18 am

0351 wrote:
Fri Oct 18, 2019 6:25 pm
watch the sparks fly when he opens up the throttle!
I wonder--is the engine fired with Char?

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Re: 0-6-0 L9 Switcher, differences

Post by rkcarguy » Mon Oct 21, 2019 11:09 am

The beginning of the video shows him cleaning out the firebox and the stocking it from what looked like a big charcoal BBQ bag, maybe that's why?

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Re: 0-6-0 L9 Switcher, differences

Post by rkcarguy » Wed Oct 23, 2019 1:18 pm

I've been looking and looking at images of different steam locomotives and there isn't a ton of stuff to choose from when you are working with tighter turn radiuses and want more than an 0-4-0. Pretty much leaves me with the varying X-6-X offerings, or another intriguing thought is to go with one of the many 2-6-6-2 "Mallet" configurations in "tank" form which would mean two sets of drivetrain but also avoids having a tender. There are many tank variances as well, simple box tanks on each side, saddle tank, half saddle tanks, etc.

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Re: 0-6-0 L9 Switcher, differences

Post by Cary Stewart » Fri Oct 25, 2019 6:27 pm

A real challenge would be to build a Garrett. There is a 0-2-0+0-2-0 Garrett under construction in Texas in 1.6" scale. The Garrett was doing its best on poorly built light rail with very sharp curves. One exception was the Dargeling Garrett was a not so hot solution for them. Almost all Garrets of he smaller sizes and some of the big ones were built to very tight requirements for axle loading. The ability to spread the weight over a longer distance made for more tractive effort with a smaller engine.
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Re: 0-6-0 L9 Switcher, differences

Post by Cary Stewart » Fri Oct 25, 2019 6:29 pm

Oh my! If you were in France you would understand my description fine. However, for the rest of us that should be 0-4-0 + 0-4-0.
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Re: 0-6-0 L9 Switcher, differences

Post by rkcarguy » Thu Nov 07, 2019 11:06 pm

I'm really liking this mallet 2-6-6-2. Articulated, so in theory, should be happy with tighter curves. Tons of traction, and while the locomotive would be a beast to build itself there would be no tender needed with this particular "tank" mallet.
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Re: 0-6-0 L9 Switcher, differences

Post by Glenn Brooks » Thu Nov 07, 2019 11:29 pm

Ryan, For tight radius turns you could also consider a geared loco, such as the Heisler, or Shay. The trucks pivot like freight car trucks so have a much sharper turning radius, plus tremendous traction. Rated for 6% grades in real life. Something to think about. BTW, I like the Mallets a lot, also...

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Re: 0-6-0 L9 Switcher, differences

Post by NP317 » Fri Nov 08, 2019 1:09 am

Having performed rebuilds on and extensively engineered a 2-6-6-2 Mallet (#11 U.S. Plywood on display at Snoqualmie, WA),
and the same on a 3-truck Heisler (#91 at Mt. Rainier Scenic RR), I would choose the Heisler to build and operate on your line.
We used to say about the Mallets: "Twice the work for the same amount of fun."
The Heisler provides a balanced high powered locomotive with more speed than any other geared locomotives.
Reasonably easy to access the engine, too. Can you tell I like Heislers?
And I don't want to talk about the Climax #10. Not my favorite.
Food for thought.
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Re: 0-6-0 L9 Switcher, differences

Post by rkcarguy » Fri Nov 08, 2019 1:37 am

I'm not a fan of the appearance of the Heisler or the Climax, sorry lol.
Whatever I decide to build will be a ways off, but it never hurts to go over all the options and ultimately start hoarding away some steel for the build.
Having been a production machinist I don't see making multiples of the parts as adding all that much work provided I can foot the costs of the materials for them. IE, it would be almost as easy for me to simply produce basically two sets of 0-6-0 running gear and mount them on one giant boiler. I would probably do 4 of the same bore cylinders, just use larger outside diameter cylinders up front for looks.

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