Whistle advice?

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Re: Whistle advice?

Post by LVRR2095 » Fri Jun 29, 2018 3:32 pm

10KPete wrote:
Tue Jun 26, 2018 7:34 pm
With steam whistles, longer makes a lower note, bigger diameter makes more volume.

Pete
While you are right that a longer chamber makes for a lower note. Increasing the diameter changes the timbre not the volume. It won’t be any louder as that is a function of the pressure.....but larger diameter gives fuller sound.
Steam whistles are basically really high pressure organ pipes and the same rules apply to them as they do to organ pipes.

Keith. (There is a Wurlitzer theater pipe organ living here at our home)

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Re: Whistle advice?

Post by Bill Shields » Fri Jun 29, 2018 4:16 pm

it is tough to get a 3/4" or 1" loco to sound like much more than an oversized tea kettle without something really out of scale 'hanging around'.

Once upon a time I saw a 1" steamer with the whistle under the TENDER which allowed for a bit more room.

It sounded a little 'wet' until the hose from the boiler warmed up but beggers cannot be choosers....

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Re: Whistle advice?

Post by Steam Engine Dan » Fri Jun 29, 2018 4:29 pm

little engines has great sounding whistles from Rizzoli locomotive Works. they are the best money can buy if you want that real full size throaty locomotive tone to make your engine sound like the real thing.

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Re: Whistle advice?

Post by jscarmozza » Fri Jun 29, 2018 6:53 pm

Dan's father has the best whistle I ever heard...I lust for it;)

My 1" Atlantic has a little peewhistle on it, it looks great scale wise, but it has no sound. I was going to try making Nelson's whistle, but that would have to get on the end of a very long project que, and I have no musical knowledge so I don't even understand the lingo. All that being said, I'm going to try to find a hiding place for the Mintz whistle, or not. If I can't disguise it, I'll give it a coat of flat black and let it all hang out.

Thanks to all for the tips and advice. John

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Re: Whistle advice?

Post by PRR5406 » Fri Jun 29, 2018 7:34 pm

All this advice and discussion is wonderful. I'm certain we are touching a number of steamer needs and questions.
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Re: Whistle advice?

Post by Steam Engine Dan » Fri Jun 29, 2018 9:09 pm

jscarmozza wrote:
Fri Jun 29, 2018 6:53 pm
Dan's father has the best whistle I ever heard...I lust for it;)

My 1" Atlantic has a little peewhistle on it, it looks great scale wise, but it has no sound. I was going to try making Nelson's whistle, but that would have to get on the end of a very long project que, and I have no musical knowledge so I don't even understand the lingo. All that being said, I'm going to try to find a hiding place for the Mintz whistle, or not. If I can't disguise it, I'll give it a coat of flat black and let it all hang out.

Thanks to all for the tips and advice. John
:D thanks john. yea my CB&Q 5 chime really sounds good doesn't it? :D
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Re: Whistle advice?

Post by Bill Shields » Fri Jun 29, 2018 9:10 pm

for 1" scale, this is not a bad size..and doesn't sound like a dog whistle or bosun's pipe

http://www.ajreeves.com/6612.html

It can be disguised under a running board or actually stuck INSIDE a cab.

the picture is not the best, but if you look inside the cab, standing vertically, right in front of the water glass, there is this whistle (or something close enough to the size to give you an idea of what you can do on a small-ish 1" 2-4-0 loco.

It sounds very interesting with the cab roof ON - the whistle is mounted with the inlet at the bottom.
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Re: Whistle advice?

Post by jscarmozza » Sat Jun 30, 2018 6:30 am

Hi Bill, there are some really great accessories across the pond, but I never tried to make an international purchase...the older I get the more hassle adverse I become. I'm going to try the Mintz first and take it from there. Or maybe I'll bring a wrench to the club and steal Dan's :)
John

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Re: Whistle advice?

Post by Steam Engine Dan » Sat Jun 30, 2018 11:35 am

jscarmozza wrote:
Sat Jun 30, 2018 6:30 am
Hi Bill, there are some really great accessories across the pond, but I never tried to make an international purchase...the older I get the more hassle adverse I become. I'm going to try the Mintz first and take it from there. Or maybe I'll bring a wrench to the club and steal Dan's :)
John
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Re: Whistle advice?

Post by Steam Engine Dan » Sat Jun 30, 2018 11:56 am

:D hahahahaha

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Re: Whistle advice?

Post by Bill Shields » Sat Jun 30, 2018 1:42 pm

I get a lot of stuff from Reeves. they take credit cards, put things in the mail and they arrive at my address....really no hassle at all...they do a LOT of to the USA shipping and have it down to a science.

The last time I was actually in their shop, they were boxing up a complete set of castings for a loco and shipping it Stateside. When then told me where it was going, it was a name that I recognized from here...and yes I am pretty sure I remember him acknowledging receipt of the bits and pieces.

5" or above copper pipe is readily available from them and believe it or not -> air shipping is actually not all that bad (after you consider the $$$ of the pipe).

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Re: Whistle advice?

Post by Builder01 » Sat Jun 30, 2018 4:55 pm

I work exclusively in 1" scale. England has much to offer in this scale. Equivalent castings from England, even after adding postage, are cheaper than castings from here in the U.S. Reeves, Blackgates and Kennions, they all take credit cards and have amazing catalogs. I recommend them all as they have much to offer. There is also much to be had for 1.5" scale builders also.

David

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