Alcohol Burner

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Alcohol Burner

Post by H&NERY » Thu Dec 27, 2018 12:04 pm

Is anyone here running the Shattock Alcohol Burner? I would like to build and install one in my 3/4" scale Hudson I am building. I have the plans and articles. I would like to see some good pictures if anyone has any. I like the idea since my locomotives are housed in my basement and will be run in and out of there once in operation. Thanks!

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Re: Alcohol Burner

Post by dnevil » Mon Dec 31, 2018 4:42 pm

Here is a link to the article by Ken Shattock.

http://ibls.org/mediawiki/index.php?tit ... e_Steamers

Please read the caution at the end entitled "Poison Gas Plant".

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Re: Alcohol Burner

Post by Asteamhead » Tue Jan 01, 2019 5:43 am

Hello H&NERY,

Please think of using this type of burner with an adjustable nozzle. It*s sucking :idea: and atomizing liquid fuel like diesel, petroleum and any sort of alcohol, too.
Maybe the burner introduced by Eccentric E. could be used, too!
Good luck!

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Re: Alcohol Burner

Post by Bill Shields » Tue Jan 01, 2019 10:48 pm

I have a 3/4' Hudson that runs very nicely on propane, which I find easier to deal with than alcohol.

There is an article on it in a 1988 version of live steam magazine.

I am sure that I can 'dig up some drawings' and scan them if needed...
Too many things going on to bother listing them.

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Re: Alcohol Burner

Post by Steve Bratina » Wed Jan 02, 2019 11:50 am

It depends on how you design the burner Bill. I know of some that worked very nicely.

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Re: Alcohol Burner

Post by rwmorris » Wed Jan 02, 2019 2:35 pm

Steve Bratina wrote:It depends on how you design the burner Bill. I know of some that worked very nicely.
I can’t wait to try out your style of Burner... I’ve got all the chunks of metal now and will most likely fab it up very soon. I wish there was a video of the flame coming off it so I can understand how it burns but that’s just me over thinking things. I found some 1/4” SS plate to make my arch from while rooting around in the scrap bin.

Do you think it might even do one better by adding a tiny shelf at the outlet of the fuel? I was trying to think of anything that might aid in spreading the fuel out such that it has an easier time mixing with the turbulent air.

I’ll see if I can post those sketches here that I sent to you.

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Re: Alcohol Burner

Post by rwmorris » Wed Jan 02, 2019 2:46 pm

Here’s the burner that is similar to Steve Bratina’s. This is from some old GGLS archives that I have in my stash.

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Re: Alcohol Burner

Post by rwmorris » Wed Jan 02, 2019 2:55 pm

Here’s the basic layout I mentioned above. I’ll leave it up to Steve to chime in with detail if needed... I’ll add my “idea” about the burner in a second.

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Re: Alcohol Burner

Post by rwmorris » Wed Jan 02, 2019 3:08 pm

This is me overthinking the deal but it’s something I’d like to try... I really can’t wait to finish this new locomotive and try out this burner. My Coventry Pacific is propane fired and it’s almost too easy. I need a challenge but I don’t want to turn to the black rocks.

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Re: Alcohol Burner

Post by rwmorris » Wed Jan 02, 2019 8:45 pm

Hopefully I’m on the right track here... I came home around 2:00 and got busy. I need to attach the upper section to the pan still and drill a bunch of holes. Plus I need to fabricate the burner block but I’d like to sleep on the idea for a night regarding the little tray in front on the hole or not.

Steve, I’d love to know if I’m barking up the right tree.

Cheers,

RM

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Re: Alcohol Burner

Post by rwmorris » Wed Jan 02, 2019 9:41 pm

Here’s the intake holes. These come out to roughly 75% of the flue area so I’m not sure if that’s too much or too little? Comments on that would be much appreciated. I need to make the burner block and wrap up the mount holes next but I’m done for the night....

Cheers,

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Re: Alcohol Burner

Post by rwmorris » Wed Jan 02, 2019 9:44 pm

A little look inside...

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