Screen Printing Freight Cars

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Re: Screen Printing Freight Cars

Post by raylrodr » Wed Dec 24, 2003 10:22 pm

Bill, this was truly an interesting post. You mentioned using an ink....was that poster ink? Is this impervious to water once dry? Thanks again....and....Merry Christmas.
Scott

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Re: Screen Printing Freight Cars

Post by Bill_Gardei » Wed Dec 24, 2003 11:09 pm

Harold:

Thanks for the fine comments. I haven't screen printed anything
since I moved from Pennsylvania 5 years ago and I was afraid I
may have forgotten how. I did have to wash three of the panels
and reprint them. But that's the good part. You can retry until
you are happy.

Dick:

You are right. You can stack as many colors as you want.

Scott and Kevin:

Poster ink. I don't know much about it, but this I do know. It is
NOT water soluable. 409 cleaner and the like will not touch it.
Xylene will remove it (and not touch the paint). My youngest
son took some of it to school to show the class. He got a little
on a coffee cup. That cup has been through the dishwasher
for the past 6 years and the ink shows no signs of coming off.
I assume it was made for campaign posters.

I bought this can of ink in 1994. It's still good. There are better
choices. UV hardened inks are almost irremovable. But I used
what I had.

Have a Merry Christmas
Bill

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Re: Screen Printing Freight Cars

Post by UnkaJesse » Thu Dec 25, 2003 11:01 am

Thanks Bill for a most informative posting. Car looks beautimus and only awaits a lokie to pull it around your scenic railway.

Now, why don't you write up the process in more detail with a few more photos and send it off to Clover McKinley at Live Steam Magazine? Might get it printed, who knows? May even be a year or two before you see it in print, but one day it will show up I 'spect.

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Re: Screen Printing Freight Cars

Post by hollahan » Thu Dec 25, 2003 1:13 pm

Bill,

This has been one of the most informative, useful single posts I have seen, IMO. Thanks for posting it.

Jon

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Re: Screen Printing Freight Cars

Post by mrb37211 » Thu Dec 25, 2003 10:52 pm

Hear, Hear! With all that money going into color photos in Live Steam recently, the proposed article would take full advantage of their efforts. Might show up sooner rather than later. Charles

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Re: Screen Printing Freight Cars

Post by Bill_Gardei » Thu Dec 25, 2003 11:51 pm

Jon:

Thanks for your comments, and your help with my railroad.
If anyone can benefit from this type of post it makes it
worthwhile and very rewarding.

Bill

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Re: Screen Printing Freight Cars

Post by RET » Fri Dec 26, 2003 4:29 pm

Hi,

This series of posts on screen printing has covered most of the important points, but there is one that I haven't seen mentioned and that is the screen "standoff distance." For flat surfaces especially, the standoff distance should be about 3/64" for small screens and as much as 1/4" for large ones.

The whole idea is that the screen should only touch the work at the squeegee which pushes it down to touch the work as the squeegee forces the "ink" through the screen. If it is in contact at other points, the pattern will be smeared because the squeegee stretches the screen a little as you make the pass.

Also, it is important to know what solvent is used with your ink so that you can clean the underside of the screen and also clean off any imperfect prints. There are other "tips & tricks" but most of them are the kind that you can figure out for yourself.

R.T.

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Re: Screen Printing Freight Cars

Post by Bill_Gardei » Fri Dec 26, 2003 7:58 pm

R.T.

All of my screening is done with a standoff distance of zero.
It is a personal preference.

Bill

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Re: Screen Printing Freight Cars

Post by UnkaJesse » Fri Dec 26, 2003 8:44 pm

Do like I and others have said Bill. Make the photos, write the article and get it in to LS and get paid a bit for your trouble.

Unka(Been there done that too and still doing it)Jesse
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Re: Screen Printing Freight Cars

Post by Bill_Gardei » Wed May 18, 2005 6:22 am

This is an old post. I am just adding the following photo for
historical completeness. Thanks -- BG

Image

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Re: Screen Printing Freight Cars

Post by UnkaJesse » Thu May 19, 2005 7:58 pm

Don't care a rip how old the post is, the printing looks first rate professional. Congratulations.

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Re: Screen Printing Freight Cars

Post by FLSTEAM » Thu May 19, 2005 8:01 pm

I did screen printing 30 years ago when we were still using silk!

IT was fun.

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