CliShay Hand Water Pump Question
Posted: Thu Apr 04, 2013 5:33 pm
Last summer I purchased a used CliShay that appeared to be complete minus the hand water pump. I posted a help question on the Chaski site to learn more about the missing hand pump and associated piping. A few people responded with suggestions (Thanks!).
I have recently purchased the CliShay book and there is a reference to the Hand Water Pump in the original design being too small to recover from a low water situation and should have the ram size increased.
I was wondering if anyone that owns a CliShay or have operated one… does the original design supply enough water or should a larger pump be used? I do not have any tools or the ability to machine the pump per the drawings, so I need to find a ready-made hand pump I can install in the tank.
My original thought was to purchase a PM research hand pump BFP-1M. http://www.pmresearchinc.com/store/home.php?cat=111
I asked them about the dimensions and they sent back the following information. The overall dimensions are 3 ¾” in length, 4” in height, 1 ¾” in width with thread size 5/16-27 which equals 1/16-27 National Pipe Thread. Do you think this would work in place of the original?
My other thought… and this was suggested by someone else on the Chaski site… was to build a riding car that has a larger water tank and install a larger water hand pump. I was thinking about building a riding car to go with the CliShay anyways and putting a water tank on this with a larger Locoparts or Accucraft water hand pump would easily keep up. My thought is that I could use the larger pump to do a hydrostatic test on the CliShay boiler and my other 0-4-0 steamer.
I would change the piping and not use the front water tank and just use the water from the riding car. My understanding is that there can be a problem with water levels in the originally designed front and rear tanks maintaining equal levels when operating?
I have a YouTube video posted at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GEY5J5mEYpc of my CliShay and shows the condition of it.
I plan on going to the Cabin Fever Expo and would like to pick up a hand water pump. Any thoughts or ideas would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
Russ
I have recently purchased the CliShay book and there is a reference to the Hand Water Pump in the original design being too small to recover from a low water situation and should have the ram size increased.
I was wondering if anyone that owns a CliShay or have operated one… does the original design supply enough water or should a larger pump be used? I do not have any tools or the ability to machine the pump per the drawings, so I need to find a ready-made hand pump I can install in the tank.
My original thought was to purchase a PM research hand pump BFP-1M. http://www.pmresearchinc.com/store/home.php?cat=111
I asked them about the dimensions and they sent back the following information. The overall dimensions are 3 ¾” in length, 4” in height, 1 ¾” in width with thread size 5/16-27 which equals 1/16-27 National Pipe Thread. Do you think this would work in place of the original?
My other thought… and this was suggested by someone else on the Chaski site… was to build a riding car that has a larger water tank and install a larger water hand pump. I was thinking about building a riding car to go with the CliShay anyways and putting a water tank on this with a larger Locoparts or Accucraft water hand pump would easily keep up. My thought is that I could use the larger pump to do a hydrostatic test on the CliShay boiler and my other 0-4-0 steamer.
I would change the piping and not use the front water tank and just use the water from the riding car. My understanding is that there can be a problem with water levels in the originally designed front and rear tanks maintaining equal levels when operating?
I have a YouTube video posted at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GEY5J5mEYpc of my CliShay and shows the condition of it.
I plan on going to the Cabin Fever Expo and would like to pick up a hand water pump. Any thoughts or ideas would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
Russ