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Post by GlennW » Wed Dec 10, 2008 5:38 pm

Jose Rivera wrote:
Kapullen ...
Jose,

It's the other one :wink:

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Post by Andypullen » Thu Dec 11, 2008 6:53 am

Glenn Wegman wrote:
Jose Rivera wrote:
Kapullen ...
Jose,

It's the other one :wink:
LOL!!

Open your eyes Jose.....Maybe some dyslexia, too?? I'll be here to confuse you, too.....

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Post by kvom » Thu Dec 11, 2008 8:15 am

Somewhat back on topic, what's the best way to safely clean ways and other precision surfaces of rust?

I'm thinking about using brake cleaner on non-precision surfaces.

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Rust

Post by Jose Rivera » Thu Dec 11, 2008 11:28 am

For removing rust try Evapo-Rust.

There was posting a few months ago about a member that bought a Maximat lathe and that product did an amazing job.
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Post by kvom » Thu Dec 11, 2008 11:34 am

Doing some grease/dirt removal this morning with Simple Green, I discovered that I have a taper attachment hiding under a sheet metal cover (!?) It's missing the way clamp and looks rusty from underneath, but hopefully is salvageable.

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Post by BadDog » Thu Dec 11, 2008 12:12 pm

Agh, the more I get to know you, the less I like you.... ;)

Congrats on the find, and I hope you can salvage it.

I've had good luck derusting stuff with inexpensive Phosphoric Acid bought at Home Depot. Look for "Concrete Etch". I dilute it about between 3:1 and 5:1 depending on what I'm doing and how bad the part is. Use normal precautions, acid into the water, Nitrile gloves, and eye protection. But Phos Acid is really pretty mild stuff (it's in Coke and many other foods). Stuff is amazing, and often doesn't even remove paint. In your case, it's going to be tougher to use on the big pieces, I usually submerge in the solution. But like Evapo-Rust (different process), you can wet towels and lay in place, then keep wetting and applying.
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Water based

Post by Jose Rivera » Thu Dec 11, 2008 12:15 pm

Careful using water based solvents in areas where the liquid can sneak in and corrode big time and out of sight.

I had good luck using BBQ lighter fuel and better yet, camping stove fuel (Naphtha).

Even Diesel fuel would be safer than water based products.
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Post by BadDog » Thu Dec 11, 2008 12:18 pm

Good point Jose, I always disassemble so I can get to everything...
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Post by GlennW » Thu Dec 11, 2008 9:51 pm

kvom,

Have you had power to it and checked to see if everything operates yet?
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Post by kvom » Fri Dec 12, 2008 8:29 am

Glenn Wegman wrote:kvom,

Have you had power to it and checked to see if everything operates yet?
Not yet. First order of business is to get it off the trailer. Looking for local wrecker/forklift/bobcat at a reasonable price.

Then I'll need to finish wiring the RPC. My electrician friend supposedly has the extra parts I need (cutoff switch, 3ph outlet and plug), but has to find the time to come over.

Should be soon.

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Post by GlennW » Fri Dec 12, 2008 10:43 am

Another suggestion would be to order a 12 X 12" sheet of 1/4" thick Linnen Phenolic from MSC, McMaster Carr etc. and make some scrapers. You can cut them to any size and shape and put an edge on them with a belt sander. Tape up the handle for comfort and you're good to go. They hold an edge really well and being of resin and fabric composition they won't scratch critical surfaces.
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Post by steamin10 » Fri Dec 12, 2008 11:17 am

Uh, id watch the bit with the scrapers.

A drop of motor oil, a brass tooth brush and elbo grease for rusty areas. maybe a little cup brush on a drill, but it is more likely to polish off the rust and clean to bare metal than sanding or chopping at the crud. The oil leaves rust proofing and allows the dust to drool together for wiping down.

I dont like water solvent/acid based things, they are easy but have a problem with Hideout that can bite ya. If you think dunk the gunk, then disassemble and go for it. The gloves are on so to speak, but work fast, dont delay, and get it done and wiped off.
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