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PostPosted: Sat May 05, 2012 7:32 pm 
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Earlier today I was talking with an amature gunsmith and comparing notes about hobbies, and both of us thought that the idea of taking one of these to a livesteam meet would be quite a bit of fun!
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With a 14" barrel in 1/8 scale you would have a 1.75" bore! It would clearly generate quite a bit of attention to say the least!

So are there any working live steam versions of this out there at any club?
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PostPosted: Sat May 05, 2012 7:58 pm 
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a fellow would get a lot of practice on axles and wheels ,20 sets working with this one

the bottom photo?? any idea where taken??


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PostPosted: Sat May 05, 2012 8:11 pm 
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hammermill wrote:
a fellow would get a lot of practice on axles and wheels ,20 sets working with this one

the bottom photo?? any idea where taken??


I believe that that one is at Dahlgren it says below.
http://usforting.com/2009/04/07/coast-d ... ce-wrapup/

I think there is also one at the Washington Navy Yard, as well as a Nazi one at Aberdeen. With that being said there is no way I could spend years building a model of anything Nazi related. But a US railway gun that would be real cool!


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...I dunno...looks like a diesel destroyer to me! :shock: Carl B.

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PostPosted: Sat May 05, 2012 8:52 pm 
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Putting that to use at a live steam meet would be a blast! :wink:

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PostPosted: Sat May 05, 2012 10:35 pm 
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If I am not mistaken I believe that they usually pushed these with the locomotive behind. Could you imagine riding towards the back of a train having a locomotive pushing one of these in front of it :shock: That would be pretty wild. So has anyone actually built a Rail Gun?

One other fun part of the project would be figuring out how to turn out the Weilen Breech Threads on your lathe. Take a close look these aren't your normal single point threads to cut;
Image Even if I don't ever build a rail gun I have always wanted to try turning out a set of Weilen breech threads just for the sheer challenge. In 1.5"/ft scale you are talking a 1.75" Bore by about 7.5ft long barrel! I can't help stop thinking about just how awesome of a thing this would be to have!

Here's a video of them firing during WWI http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T7al-ZJmSlM

Does a working model of one exist anywhere?


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PostPosted: Sat May 05, 2012 11:09 pm 
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As far as the breech threads, I believe there was description of a model of this type of gun in a very early Model Engineer. I believe it was one of the reprints of the early editions.

By the time you have turned all the wheels you would have enough for a whole train!


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PostPosted: Sun May 06, 2012 12:38 am 
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You could use compressed air and shoot potaoes with it.


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PostPosted: Sun May 06, 2012 1:15 am 
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indoing some checking here are some more color images

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Railway_gun

here is a bunch of photos from the rail gun

http://www.williammaloney.com/Aviation/ ... /index.htm

here is a video of one of the arsnel videos at the last it shows a shaper for cutting the breech block

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dFN1yEvAhyc


at least it could be a well documented build

as a foot note the us navy scraped out the 16 inch spare barrels that were stored at the hawthorne nevada ammo depot last year. i mention this because the articles mention the guns were built using surplus battleship barrels and several went to europe and were maned by naval gunners during ww2


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PostPosted: Sun May 06, 2012 5:58 am 
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A couple of references

http://www.google.co.uk/images?hl=en&sa ... 92&bih=977

http://www.hlj.com/product/HOB82903

http://img.groundspeak.com/waymarking/l ... 6eaa1e.JPG

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/c ... niegun.jpg
http://reference.findtarget.com/search/ ... %20Museum/

http://atlanticwallbelgiumboulogne.110m ... t/todt.htm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Krupp_K5
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Railway_gun

http://www.zoids.com.tw/merchandise/3/t ... -00207.htm
http://www.aircraftresourcecenter.com/G ... dt/00.shtm

http://airlandseaweapons.devhub.com/blo ... ry/page-3/
http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fichier:28 ... _01_09.jpg
http://www.e94114.de/Eisenbahngeschuetze/K5_Leopold.htm

http://wn.com/Krupp_K5_Railway_Gun_Leopold
See the other videos...


http://www.one35th.com/model/k5/k5_hist01.htm
http://www.one35th.com/model/k5/k5_hist02.htm
http://www.one35th.com/model/k5/k5_model16.htm
http://cs.finescale.com/FSMCS/forums/p/ ... 78654.aspx
http://www.perthmilitarymodelling.com/r ... /apg12.htm
http://www.clubhyper.com/reference/leopold.htm
http://www.flickr.com/photos/amateur_anorak/3075399135/
http://hsgalleries.com/leopoldrb_1.htm

http://automodeler.kitmaker.net/modules ... artid=2039
http://www.falmanac.com/2010/11/anzio-a ... g-apg.html

an "original" can be seen in France
http://www.panoramio.com/photo/17835846

Next week is again the Model Engineering show in Harrogate.
In recent years there was a model shown (for 5" rails, under construction).
If it is again on display, I'll post pictures.

Johannes


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PostPosted: Sun May 06, 2012 8:43 am 
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Back in the early 90's I saw a 1" rail gun at one of the meets at LALS...it was absolutely huge even in 1"....anybody remember seeing this or know anything about it?


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PostPosted: Sun May 06, 2012 8:50 am 
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that would be pretty cool as a propane cannon....


unfortunately one could not make a functioning gun as I found out a number of years ago.

I've built a half scale gatling gun....which is really cool...and wanted a mate for it...so I decided a whitworth rifle would be neat until I researched the ATF website.....buncha roadblocks

anything over .5" bore cannot be rifled....

and cannot be breech loading.

those types are considered DD weapons(destructive device)

a 1/3 scale whitworth would be a 1" bore. and is breechloading.

then I thought how about a krupp 88.....in 1/10th scale....use 8mm mauser rounds, but diagrams and drawings became a problem to find.

and with all the stupid gun laws in cali....the fun of even target shooting faded.

my .02


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