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 Post subject: Re: New to me vice
PostPosted: Wed Jun 06, 2012 10:21 am 
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It's not hard to get real stuff from the metal yard here - just pay the per lb price of the piece. They don't care what it is. If that thing weighs 60 lbs, they may have missed $2~3 in revenue. Nice score on your part!

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 Post subject: Re: New to me vice
PostPosted: Wed Jun 06, 2012 12:02 pm 
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For an import, those double- sided swivel jobs are useful in welding.


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 Post subject: Re: New to me vice
PostPosted: Wed Jun 06, 2012 3:07 pm 
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ronm wrote:
Yup-that vice is defintiely a wilton-glad you didn't loose out on that deal...I got a nice Columbian vice at a yard sale for 40 buck's...had too take the steel-topp'ed bench it was attached two in the deal...no way me was gonna loose out on that...
The old American vices are sort of a vise of mine...Columbian, Wilton, ect., so much better than the losely-built Chicom stuff...
& yes, I do know better-I'm messin' w/you guys... :twisted:

<<<<<<<<<<snicker>>>>>>>>>

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 Post subject: Re: New to me vice
PostPosted: Thu Jun 07, 2012 8:02 am 
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vice for vise is so common that some dictionaries are now listing vice as an alternative spelling or synonym.


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 Post subject: Re: New to me vice
PostPosted: Thu Jun 07, 2012 2:56 pm 
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Torch wrote:
vice for vise is so common that some dictionaries are now listing vice as an alternative spelling or synonym.

Language appears to constantly evolve. The word dive is an example. When I was in school (oh so many years ago), one never *dove* in to a pool of water (looks a lot like a bird to me). One dived.

Dive, dove, diven. Sort of loses something.

Not anymore.

Harold

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 Post subject: Re: New to me vice
PostPosted: Mon Jun 11, 2012 11:09 am 
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My Shorter Oxford English Dictionary, printed 1970, defines Vise:

Vise, var. (now usu. U.S.) of Vice

Vice Also (now U.S.) vise ...

So, should we Canadians use vice?

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 Post subject: Re: New to me vice
PostPosted: Mon Jun 11, 2012 11:54 am 
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Based on the way the one on my bench is often used, perhaps I should spell it a-n-v-i-l?


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 Post subject: Re: New to me vice
PostPosted: Tue Jun 12, 2012 2:31 am 
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Subject of vises; there was an interesting model/style made in India some years ago. It is a dovetailed sliding head type of bench vise. There was an advantage to it's design in that the outer jaw was fixed and the inner slid on dovetails. It made sense in that it could be mounted to bench and the outer jaw never went way outside the bench. Problem was it had a small anvil section behind the sliding back area and one person used that area as an anvil. That split the cast tube/nut of the leadscrew. So there is cast and there is semi steel and designs which fail due to inferior steel at one point.


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 Post subject: Re: New to me vice
PostPosted: Tue Jun 12, 2012 8:39 am 
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spro wrote:
. So there is cast and there is semi steel and designs which fail due to inferior steel at one point.


Spro, that sentence reminded me of a vise I had tried to forget about-many years ago, I bought a vise out of the back of a pickup in a supermarket parking lot...yeah I know...but I was young & poor & needed a vise...that sucker "failed due to inferior steel" literally the first time I really clamped down on something...the fixed jaw just broke off. The stuff looked like grainy, porous pig iron...I don't remember if there was a country of origin tag anywhere, but it did have a nice paint job on it. Of course, the guy in the pickup was gone next time I went by...lesson learned.


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