Allen Models "New Arch Bar Trucks"

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Allen Models "New Arch Bar Trucks"

Post by Steve Alley » Wed Jan 20, 2016 10:48 pm

Allen Models of Nevada
New Arch Bar Trucks

Let the news out that Allen Models of Nevada has come out with a new Arch Bar Truck in cast Iron that is heat treated for easy machining.
Priced at $276.00 per truck plus shipping at $24.00 which includes insurance. Sale price at $250.00 pre truck until, May 31, 2016, Still $24.00 for shipping.

Well after buying Allen Models from Marty Knox I received the Pattern for the new Arch Bar Truck castings. This is a heavy Arch Bar Truck for the Hobby in 1 1/2 in. scale. Weight is 20 lbs. with 3/4 in. axle material and 4 in wheel diameter. Side Frame material is 5/8 in. wide flat bar and uses sealed ball bearing. The journal boxes were enlarged from the old style truck to accommodate sealed ball bearings in order to eliminate the old style friction bearings.

Kit includes the following items

4 cast iron wheels
2 Axles (1144 Stress proof Material)
1 Cast Iron Center Bolster
2 Cast Iron Bolster end pedestals
4 Cast Iron Journal Boxes with covers
8 Coil Springs
2 Spring Pads
6 Pcs. Side Frame bars pre-bent
4 Sealed Ball Bearings
1 new replacement Drawing #26

Future Brake Rigging will be available as a kit which will include 4 brake shoes, 2 cross beams, laser cut hangers and 3 pivot arms to complete the truck. The brakes will be actuated using a Clippard style air cylinder or a vacuum pot as the customer wishes. Price yet to be determined. This will make for a excellent package for the scratch builder suitable for tenders and cars.


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Re: Allen Models "New Arch Bar Trucks"

Post by Marty_Knox » Thu Jan 21, 2016 6:36 am

Giving credit where credit is due, Steve Zuiderveen did a lot of the development work on these trucks. The new journal box was his idea, and he made the design and pattern.

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Re: Allen Models "New Arch Bar Trucks"

Post by Fender » Thu Jan 21, 2016 7:25 am

Photos of the new truck?
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Re: Allen Models "New Arch Bar Trucks"

Post by ccvstmr » Thu Jan 21, 2016 9:49 am

Hello Steve...just want to make sure I understand the numbers. The price quoted (regular and sale price) as well as component quantities in the kit are for ONE truck only...not ONE PAIR of trucks. Correct?

As Fender noted, a few photos of the side frame (face and rear) and other views would be appreciated. Thank you. Carl B.
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Re: Allen Models "New Arch Bar Trucks"

Post by NP317 » Thu Jan 21, 2016 11:44 am

Steve:
While at Train Mountains 2015 Triennial, I spoke with Steve Zuiderveen about the possibility of a "kit" to upgrade old Allen arch bar trucks to the new sealed ball bearing design. Specifically, 8 castings of the new axle box, plus 8 bearings, plus drawings for machining the boxes.
Is that something you are willing to sell? I am certainly hoping to purchase such a kit, and I'm sure there is an existing market for same.
Let us know, please!
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Re: Allen Models "New Arch Bar Trucks"

Post by Dick_Morris » Thu Jan 21, 2016 7:53 pm

a "kit" to upgrade old Allen arch bar trucks to the new sealed ball bearing
I applied 7/8" od by 3/8" id ball bearings by boring the appropriate recess and installing a steel sleeve. I think I used Loctite to hold the sleeve.

Steve - What's the postage paid price for just the drawing? I have several sets of Allen castings and would be interested in seeing what the updated version looks like.

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Re: Allen Models "New Arch Bar Trucks"

Post by Steve Alley » Thu Jan 21, 2016 8:21 pm

This is the picture of the New Arch Bar Truck.

Also this is sold as price for one truck not a pair price.

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Re: Allen Models "New Arch Bar Trucks"

Post by Steve Alley » Thu Jan 21, 2016 8:49 pm

Yes Marty is correct give credit where credit is do! Thank to Steve V this would never have happen. Thank You Steve You did a grate job on this. Still working on Brake kit to be offered for this truck. Stay tune. This is new to me and I will make mistake now and then. I did mean to take this credit that Steve V does deserve. He put a lot of time and money into this Truck and buy this company from Marty this part is part of which I bought. Steve V deserve the development of this and many other part that makes up Allen Models. As others before me.
Thanks guys

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Re: Allen Models "New Arch Bar Trucks"

Post by Steve Alley » Thu Jan 21, 2016 8:58 pm

As far as drawing there not quite finish. I just e-mail more info to my guy for more measurement need. There has been just as much time spent on drawings as it took to make the trucks them self. But all is good and so to have all the corrections on one drawing to ship out. Price for new drawing #26 will probably be 12.50 plus postage that is unknow at this time. I just went to the P.O. and ship out a small flat rate box that was 5.95 price, new shipping price is 6.80 so go figure, lost on that one. I will start using on line USPS to stop or correct this from happening.
Also there will be a new pattern board made just for the conversion of old truck castings to the new style 1 center bolster M306 32.00, 2 end bolsters M307 22.00, 4 journal boxes M302 80.00 and 4 Roller Ball Bearings M301 30.00 . Price total per truck $164.00

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Re: Allen Models "New Arch Bar Trucks"

Post by kcjones611 » Thu Jan 21, 2016 9:29 pm

Steve,
Will you still have the old style journal box and (more importantly) lids available or are these discontinued?

Thanks for keeping a great product line going!!
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Re: Allen Models "New Arch Bar Trucks"

Post by Steve Alley » Fri Jan 22, 2016 12:35 am

Yes I will still have the old journal boxes and part available for those that need replacement, But I will most likely not re-pore or replace stock of these. Not to many lids left. These are not that good anyway. If you are interrested in these contact me, I will send pictures of the castings so you can see what they look like.

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Re: Allen Models "New Arch Bar Trucks"

Post by little giant » Fri Jan 22, 2016 5:15 am

I would like to get a pair of these trucks. Are these kits available now or just accepting orders?

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