Best Type of Axe for Busting Rotten Stump?

The Junk Drawer is for those Off Topical discussions where we can ask questions of the community that we feel might have the ability to help out.

Moderators: Harold_V, websterz

Harold_V
Posts: 17732
Joined: Fri Dec 20, 2002 11:02 pm
Location: Onalaska, WA USA

Re: Best Type of Axe for Busting Rotten Stump?

Post by Harold_V » Tue Sep 18, 2018 2:45 pm

Not sure what "I don't think so" applies to, but expanding the wood in both directions is part of getting a fit that doesn't move. Analyze the hole made for a handle and see that it's larger at the openings on both ends, tapered towards a point somewhere near center. That means you must have some slop at the outer end once the handle is installed. Expanding the wood (with a wedge) tightens the fit. It need not be steel, but a cross wedge goes a long ways towards ensuring the head doesn't move by expanding the wood in the second axis.

Can you achieve the same results without the wedge? Possibly, but using a hydrocarbon to expand the wood adequately is questionable in my mind. If you've done any wood working, you realize that water swells wood grain nicely, but oil based finishes do not. While you may gain some expansion, it won't rival that of water, so it makes more sense to rely on wedges, properly installed, than to soak the head in oil in the hopes that it will replace proper workmanship.

To quote Patio, "that's the world according to Harold."

H
Wise people talk because they have something to say. Fools talk because they have to say something.

User avatar
SteveHGraham
Posts: 7787
Joined: Sat Jan 17, 2009 7:55 pm
Location: Florida

Re: Best Type of Axe for Busting Rotten Stump?

Post by SteveHGraham » Tue Sep 18, 2018 3:10 pm

Now, Harold. How would you feel if I let the axe guy tell me you were wrong about machining?
Every hard-fried egg began life sunny-side up.

Harold_V
Posts: 17732
Joined: Fri Dec 20, 2002 11:02 pm
Location: Onalaska, WA USA

Re: Best Type of Axe for Busting Rotten Stump?

Post by Harold_V » Tue Sep 18, 2018 3:14 pm

SteveHGraham wrote:
Tue Sep 18, 2018 3:10 pm
Now, Harold. How would you feel if I let the axe guy tell me you were wrong about machining?
"that's the world according to Harold."

H
Wise people talk because they have something to say. Fools talk because they have to say something.

User avatar
SteveHGraham
Posts: 7787
Joined: Sat Jan 17, 2009 7:55 pm
Location: Florida

Re: Best Type of Axe for Busting Rotten Stump?

Post by SteveHGraham » Tue Sep 18, 2018 3:27 pm

He lives up your way. I think you need to settle this with your fists.
Every hard-fried egg began life sunny-side up.

User avatar
mcostello
Posts: 827
Joined: Sat Jan 04, 2003 10:45 pm
Location: Lancaster, Ohio

Re: Best Type of Axe for Busting Rotten Stump?

Post by mcostello » Tue Sep 18, 2018 8:40 pm

Sounds like You both are"chips off the old (same) block." :)

User avatar
SteveHGraham
Posts: 7787
Joined: Sat Jan 17, 2009 7:55 pm
Location: Florida

Re: Best Type of Axe for Busting Rotten Stump?

Post by SteveHGraham » Tue Sep 18, 2018 9:15 pm

I soaked the axe head in RV antifreeze for around an hour and a half. I may hit it with pure dipropylene glycol when my bottle arrives.

Later this week I'll find a small live oak that needs killing, and we'll see if the axe goes ballistic.

I have been reading about round wedges. They look like a better idea than flat ones. I don't think a round wedge would be as inclined to make a handle split.
Every hard-fried egg began life sunny-side up.

User avatar
SteveHGraham
Posts: 7787
Joined: Sat Jan 17, 2009 7:55 pm
Location: Florida

Re: Best Type of Axe for Busting Rotten Stump?

Post by SteveHGraham » Wed Sep 19, 2018 7:19 pm

Today I obliterated a small tree that annoyed me. I'm happy to report that the axe head didn't fly off or move around on the handle.

Cutting trees with an axe is horrible, isn't it? I may start cutting several every week just for the exercise. I hate live oaks, so I am planning to kill every small one on the farm.
Attachments
08 19 18 Plumb axe in felled live oak small.jpg
Every hard-fried egg began life sunny-side up.

User avatar
NP317
Posts: 1951
Joined: Tue Jun 24, 2014 2:57 pm
Location: Northern Oregon

Re: Best Type of Axe for Busting Rotten Stump?

Post by NP317 » Wed Sep 19, 2018 11:40 pm

So....
Did I miss the discussion as to why you are not using a chain saw to eliminate the oaks?
~RN

User avatar
steamin10
Posts: 6712
Joined: Sun Jun 08, 2003 11:52 pm
Location: NW Indiana. Close to Lake Michigan S. tip

Re: Best Type of Axe for Busting Rotten Stump?

Post by steamin10 » Thu Sep 20, 2018 1:45 am

A hill guy came to town and wanted a new fangled chain saw. He heard they would cut trees faster than any axe. So the guy at the store sold him a small chain saw and the guy appeared the next day, very unhappy. He claimed the saw did no better than the axe, and he could not get it to produce more cut trees than before.

By the way, what is the rope for?? (BBBbbrrrrunnn!)
Big Dave, former Millwright, Electrician, Environmental conditioning, and back yard Fixxit guy. Now retired, persuing boats, trains, and broken relics.
We have enough youth, how about a fountain of Smart. My computer beat me at chess, but not kickboxing
It is not getting caught in the rain, its learning to dance in it. People saying good morning, should have to prove it.

User avatar
SteveHGraham
Posts: 7787
Joined: Sat Jan 17, 2009 7:55 pm
Location: Florida

Re: Best Type of Axe for Busting Rotten Stump?

Post by SteveHGraham » Thu Sep 20, 2018 9:08 am

I use chainsaws all the time, unfortunately.

I also wanted an axe. I needed something to break up a chemically treated stump, and I figured there had to be jobs a person needs an axe for. It seemed weird to have acreage, trees, and no axe.

First I got a maul to break up a chemically treated stump, and then I decided to get a couple of felling axes. Whether the axes will get any use, I cannot say.
Every hard-fried egg began life sunny-side up.

User avatar
Egerolb
Posts: 1
Joined: Wed Nov 21, 2018 5:28 am
Location: Clifton

Re: Best Type of Axe for Busting Rotten Stump?

Post by Egerolb » Thu Nov 22, 2018 3:35 am

I use Hults Bruk Dave Canterbury Axe. It's realy good axe for home and camping. It was created by the famous, experienced blacksmith Cartenbury. His axe design is wisely based on the traditional pattern that was popular throughout the 19th century and used by professional woodmen. Dave a well-known also as an outdoor, wilderness and survival skills instructor. So, he tried to make the axe not too heavy, good for hobby use. You can read about there prons and cons here https://bestoutdooritems.com/best-felling-axe/
Of course everybody need to do his choise, but i think it's perfect axe.
You can choise your axe after watching this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WgejAfJvcT0

hoppercar
Posts: 224
Joined: Sun Jul 22, 2018 4:09 pm

Re: Best Type of Axe for Busting Rotten Stump?

Post by hoppercar » Wed Dec 12, 2018 8:58 am

If it's a rotten stump....who cares...any axe will do....but I say, forget the axe....and burn it out

Post Reply