WANTED Blueprints for Mercer 0-4-0 camel Back

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Re: WANTED Blueprints for Mercer 0-4-0 camel Back

Post by Painter590 » Fri Nov 07, 2014 12:07 pm

I went down to the St Louis Live Steamers and I found out a lot about my camelback. The reason it is marked 1173 is because that is the original firing of the locomotive. It was originally built by Leo Meyer, with the help of Joel Pittenger's father. After Leo passed away, Joel Pittenger and Jerry (Gerald) Farrow where the caretakers of this camelback.

And, finally, I have the responsibility to get this steam locomotive back up and running, for generations of people to enjoy.

If for some reason I do not have this info correct, please let me know.


I have joined the St. Louis steamers and ready to start getting this locomotive up and running. If anyone has video or film of this locomotive running, I would love to pay to have a copy made.
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Re: WANTED Blueprints for Mercer 0-4-0 camel Back

Post by johnpenn74 » Tue Nov 11, 2014 11:11 pm

Does anyone have some drawings to the trucks on the camel back?

I have 2 sets of drawings and the trucks are not in my sets.

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Re: WANTED Blueprints for Mercer 0-4-0 camel Back

Post by Trainman4602 » Fri Nov 14, 2014 6:45 pm

John

I am working on the prints now as well as the patterns now I need them to complete the sent my prints for that truck is very faded. It originally was for the two versions the 36 inch wheel and the 33 inch wheel as used on the camelback.
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Re: WANTED Blueprints for Mercer 0-4-0 camel Back

Post by jschoenly » Fri Nov 14, 2014 7:12 pm

Does the A5 use the same trucks as the I8's? Did the trucks with 33" have different wheel base or frames than the 36" wheel trucks?
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Re: WANTED Blueprints for Mercer 0-4-0 camel Back

Post by Trainman4602 » Sat Nov 15, 2014 4:54 am

The larger wheels had a longer wheel base
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Re: WANTED Blueprints for Mercer 0-4-0 camel Back

Post by johnpenn74 » Mon Nov 17, 2014 9:28 am

So are there two different versions of tenders used on the engine?

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Logging meets that actually move logs

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2 Mich-Cal Shays
Allen 4-4-0 Narrow Gauge Conversion
Two Reading A5a Camelback 0-4-0
USRA 0-6-0
Clishay
4 Western Wheeled Scraper NG Dump Cars
N&W 4-8-2
ICM 2-10-2
4 Modern Stake Cars
L&N Caboose
4 Big Four Conversion Gondolas

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Re: WANTED Blueprints for Mercer 0-4-0 camel Back

Post by Pontiacguy1 » Mon Nov 17, 2014 4:18 pm

A lot of engines used quite a few different tenders, especially towards the end of steam when some locomotives would 'inherit' a bigger engine's tender. I used a set of MCC or Tom Bee trucks under mine, which you have seen. The tenders I have look right behind the locomotive to my eyes, but I do sometimes wish that they were just about 3 or 4 inches longer.

If you are trying to copy some specific locomotive, then that's a different deal all together.

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Re: WANTED Blueprints for Mercer 0-4-0 camel Back

Post by thomaskremers » Tue Oct 16, 2018 6:51 am

Gene, My dad has an 0-4-0 built in the 60's and a George the Fifth built in the 30's and he wouldn't trust anyone other than Marty to work on boilers for them. Do you have a picture of 1173? is it a reading engine? We are trying to track a reading 1173 built by a group in the 60's as a camelback and sold to someone in PA in the late 70's early 80's.

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Re: WANTED Blueprints for Mercer 0-4-0 camel Back

Post by PRR5406 » Tue Oct 16, 2018 9:40 am

A5a's had both slope back and box tenders, probably based on the service they were assigned to and what was available at the time. I've been collecting A5a photos for some time and the variety of appointments is amazing. Examples, apart from tenders: round vs. rectangular number plates, fireman's cab versus open to the sky, markers versus none, and the list goes on. One thing which struck me was a photo of an A5a assigned to branch line service, with a caboose and short train. This might have been because of the load limits of rail and bridges, but it builds a case for use an assignment anywhere on the system. Depending on the decade you wish to model, almost any configuration would be correct.
I was sent a photo of a string of retired A5a's in Medina, going to scrap; about seven of them in a single line. What we wouldn't give to have one or two spared for operation today? They were great little locomotives.
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Re: WANTED Blueprints for Mercer 0-4-0 camel Back

Post by uncle jerd » Tue Oct 16, 2018 1:08 pm

Get the Ridge boiler. Trust us.

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Re: WANTED Blueprints for Mercer 0-4-0 camel Back

Post by Trainman4602 » Tue Oct 16, 2018 1:23 pm

Well I can make that boiler. I have made about a dozen of them over the years.
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Re: WANTED Blueprints for Mercer 0-4-0 camel Back

Post by PRR5406 » Wed Oct 17, 2018 1:50 pm

TA5a.pdf
From Reading plans.
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This is the tender assigned to most A5a's during service as yard switchers.
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