Welshpool & Llanfair open wagons

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Re: Welshpool & Llanfair open wagons

Post by ironhorseriley » Tue Mar 29, 2016 3:45 pm

Not in the physical way. I am working out scaling a good drawing and the best way to do the "side frames", if you can call them that on a British wagon?
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Re: Welshpool & Llanfair open wagons

Post by Adirondack » Thu Mar 31, 2016 2:07 pm

ironhorseriley wrote:Not in the physical way. I am working out scaling a good drawing and the best way to do the "side frames", if you can call them that on a British wagon?
Less is more.
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Re: Welshpool & Llanfair open wagons

Post by ironhorseriley » Thu Mar 31, 2016 5:57 pm

Yes, those look good, the "kiss" principle.
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Re: Welshpool & Llanfair open wagons

Post by Erskine Tramway » Fri Apr 01, 2016 10:44 am

Hi Jim.....

Here's what a string of the Heywood wagons look like in 7-1/2" gauge. Two are just the 'flat wagons' and one has the 'top' installed.

Enjoy,

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Re: Welshpool & Llanfair open wagons

Post by ironhorseriley » Fri Apr 01, 2016 3:31 pm

They do look nice!
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Re: Welshpool & Llanfair open wagons

Post by dorin » Mon Apr 04, 2016 9:42 am

I know LMS is not the same as Welshpool and Llanfair..but a really excellent reference on UK designs can be found in the Illustrated History of LMS Wagons, by RJ Essery.
I bought a copy of Volume 2 at a flea market.

You can find volume 1 for about $10.00 from Amazon.
http://www.amazon.com/Illustrated-Histo ... LMS+Wagons

I don't see volume 2 for sale...but I really enjoy this book and I bet volume 1 is still very nice.

It has an abundant supply of diagrams for the rolling stock. It even has diagrams of the Axle boxes!
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Re: Welshpool & Llanfair open wagons

Post by ironhorseriley » Mon Apr 04, 2016 4:03 pm

Thanks for the info. I have had excellent luck finding a lot of info for the various construction details of similar wagons. Between the other similar designs posted on the net and what I have garnered from the W & L wagons, I will come up with some good details and dimensions to work with. I am just getting crushed for time now as I have a part time job in addition to my full time job. I have noticed the "plank count" often referred to the height of the sides and wondered if the board dimensions were somewhat standard on most British built wagons?

Thanks, Dorin
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Re: Welshpool & Llanfair open wagons

Post by Adirondack » Thu May 19, 2016 10:54 am

ironhorseriley wrote:Thanks for the info. I have had excellent luck finding a lot of info for the various construction details of similar wagons. Between the other similar designs posted on the net and what I have garnered from the W & L wagons, I will come up with some good details and dimensions to work with. I am just getting crushed for time now as I have a part time job in addition to my full time job. I have noticed the "plank count" often referred to the height of the sides and wondered if the board dimensions were somewhat standard on most British built wagons?

Thanks, Dorin
Hi Jim. I hope to have these new curly spoked wheels available shortly.

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Re: Welshpool & Llanfair open wagons

Post by ironhorseriley » Tue May 24, 2016 9:00 am

I do like the look of that wheel!
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Re: Welshpool & Llanfair open wagons

Post by Adirondack » Wed Jan 04, 2017 11:27 am

ironhorseriley wrote:I do like the look of that wheel!
Hey Jim. Here they are "in the flesh". The 3D printed patterns made for some very nice cast wheels.

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Re: Welshpool & Llanfair open wagons

Post by ironhorseriley » Wed Jan 04, 2017 2:53 pm

Very nice! Now to the problem would be machining.
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Re: Welshpool & Llanfair open wagons

Post by timmy wheeler » Sat Nov 24, 2018 11:43 pm

ADK - Have you produced the spoked wagon wheels? Are they available? Did you produce the also produce the pedestals? I'm considering building some 2 axle cars and I really like your designs. Timmy
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