This is the only "floppy" tool holder I've been acquainted with. It is an Armstrong and came with the 1880's Sebastian and May lathe. One can see it was made intentionally to flex the tool away from the cut, as Harold said.
Just a couple of fun photos from the tools used in the past.
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I'm inclined to suggest that the design is more intended to allow cutting off near the chuck than for deflection. The reason I chose that posture is that any deflection of the tool holder is likely to manifest itself in the loss of side clearance, as the tool would deflect at an angle. I could see a busted parting tool in that scenario.
Could be wrong!
H
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It appears I most likely am wrong with my suggestion. While the tool holder would deflect as I suggested, the slot I see likely allows for the tool to dip, which would accomplish the desired deflection (which eliminates the loss of side clearance). The example provided is a "gooseneck" design, as I see it.
Could be wrong!
H
Edit:
It appears I most likely am wrong with my suggestion. While the tool holder would deflect as I suggested, the slot I see likely allows for the tool to dip, which would accomplish the desired deflection (which eliminates the loss of side clearance). The example provided is a "gooseneck" design, as I see it.
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http://www.chaski.org/homemachinist/dow ... w&id=61125
This is a picture of the gooseneck tool holder that popped into mind. It lets the cutter deflect under heavy load.
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This is a picture of the gooseneck tool holder that popped into mind. It lets the cutter deflect under heavy load.
lg
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This picture of the goose neck tool holders is interesting. We could talk all day about how the cutting tool would be positioned. Just ask the Axis and what happens to the edge of the tool under load. Lathe pressure and shaper pressure are different and I think it requires some investigation towards the axis of the clapper box to see any benefit. They are the same type of tool holder with a swivel capture of the tool.
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I thought I knew this. The neck is at the cutting side and could compress slightly when hitting an inclusion. These were shown as a threading tool holder and the tools were opposite the picture. Where's the "confused" button?
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I wonder if he is talking about an airplane being able to flex?SteveHGraham wrote:This guy is too funny to ignore. I keep going back and saying things like, "Thanks for all the great comments. Keep it up." He snaps at the bait every time.