Looking at used SB 13 lathes.
Do these prices seem about right?
https://www.ebay.com/itm/234017680452?_ ... %7Ciid%3A1
https://www.ebay.com/itm/393434732219?_ ... %7Ciid%3A1
Anyone had experience with the sellers?
These seem like a nice sized lathe, good reputation, good parts availability etc. and a nice step up from something bench top.
Thanks for any advice!
SB 13 Lathe pricing question
Re: SB 13 Lathe pricing question
Without knowing the wear on the ways, the price seems a bit high.
RussN
RussN
Re: SB 13 Lathe pricing question
Thanks, I agree, and it not being local, makes it even more of a challenge.
Hard pick between some South Bends and a few Logans that I've seen for sale.
Still way more cost effective than a brand new Jet, Sharp, PM, which would be 10-17K for something similar.
Hard pick between some South Bends and a few Logans that I've seen for sale.
Still way more cost effective than a brand new Jet, Sharp, PM, which would be 10-17K for something similar.
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Re: SB 13 Lathe pricing question
As mentioned...way condition is everything
I would personally avoid purchasing a SB without being able to eyeball the ways in the primary way area.
This coming from a guy who owns 3 of them..one of which is very worn out in that area.
I would personally avoid purchasing a SB without being able to eyeball the ways in the primary way area.
This coming from a guy who owns 3 of them..one of which is very worn out in that area.
Too many things going on to bother listing them.
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Re: SB 13 Lathe pricing question
Second seller has a Clausing for the same money ,has hardened bed . That would be my first choice over a SB.
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Re: SB 13 Lathe pricing question
Indeed! Especially when the machine being offered has been repainted. Such a machine has a way of screwing with one's judgment, giving cause to think the machine is in good condition when it may not be.Bill Shields wrote: ↑Tue Jul 13, 2021 4:45 pm I would personally avoid purchasing a SB without being able to eyeball the ways in the primary way area.
I do not recall the gentleman's name, but several years ago an elderly gent joined our board. He had just purchased a newly painted SB lathe. Not knowing anything about lathes, he had no clue at the time, but the machine was, literally, junk. He ended up scrapping the machine.
Be very careful when purchasing ANY old lathe, especially when it has a soft bed, as most of them do in the home shop class. Don't be mislead by the false notion that you won't need high precision, as a worn machine will struggle to do most any job, and you'll come to the unfounded conclusion that you can't machine, when the truth most likely is you have a machine that has outlived its useful life.
You think you have no need for precision work? How about fitting a bushing or a bearing? An acceptable slip or press fit? A tough job on a badly worn machine.
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Re: SB 13 Lathe pricing question
Lathes are such funny things.
In high school shop I learned on nice Logan 12” machines. My first tool room job had ancient lathes with horrible tapers and I learned how to do precision work on bad machines with files and abrasives. It was a ceramics plant and everything had dust everywhere just wearing away at sliding surfaces.
I’ve been spending a couple days a week in a friends shop building stamping dies. Just yesterday I knew I’d be in front of a Clausing 14” that was insanely noisy and I took in some canal caps for my ears. I’d always been on the BP or SG off to the side while my pal ran the lathe and I just dreaded the noise. This time the roles were reversed and within an hour he told me to stop as the noise was driving him nuts. We pulled off the lower side cover, exposing the vari-drive, and I ran it to diagnose the noise. No Noise ! The grommets that locate the side cover on some pins were all missing and it was the cover that was rattling even though the fasteners were tight. A simple fix and an entirely new opinion of the machine tool. Old lathes have many mysteries. Some easy and some dreadful. Always a gamble.
8 yrs ago ENCO put out a 20% off coupon with NO Exclusions. Long story short I got a brand new ENCO 13x40 Gear Head Lathe delivered for $2889.00. I still marvel at how lucky I was to get that deal. Various people whose old Harleys are again rolling down the road, University Engineering students whose projects reached fruition and my lawnmower have all benefited from having this machine in my home shop. I don’t abuse it and it does pretty much anything I ask of it.
I’m guessing from your profile this would be a home shop lathe choice. Aside from politics and the like, I honestly think a machine like this is a great home shop choice and very economical.
https://exacttooling.com/products/pr751 ... 61caeff48a
In high school shop I learned on nice Logan 12” machines. My first tool room job had ancient lathes with horrible tapers and I learned how to do precision work on bad machines with files and abrasives. It was a ceramics plant and everything had dust everywhere just wearing away at sliding surfaces.
I’ve been spending a couple days a week in a friends shop building stamping dies. Just yesterday I knew I’d be in front of a Clausing 14” that was insanely noisy and I took in some canal caps for my ears. I’d always been on the BP or SG off to the side while my pal ran the lathe and I just dreaded the noise. This time the roles were reversed and within an hour he told me to stop as the noise was driving him nuts. We pulled off the lower side cover, exposing the vari-drive, and I ran it to diagnose the noise. No Noise ! The grommets that locate the side cover on some pins were all missing and it was the cover that was rattling even though the fasteners were tight. A simple fix and an entirely new opinion of the machine tool. Old lathes have many mysteries. Some easy and some dreadful. Always a gamble.
8 yrs ago ENCO put out a 20% off coupon with NO Exclusions. Long story short I got a brand new ENCO 13x40 Gear Head Lathe delivered for $2889.00. I still marvel at how lucky I was to get that deal. Various people whose old Harleys are again rolling down the road, University Engineering students whose projects reached fruition and my lawnmower have all benefited from having this machine in my home shop. I don’t abuse it and it does pretty much anything I ask of it.
I’m guessing from your profile this would be a home shop lathe choice. Aside from politics and the like, I honestly think a machine like this is a great home shop choice and very economical.
https://exacttooling.com/products/pr751 ... 61caeff48a
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'96 Birmingham mill, Enco 13x40 GH and Craftsman 6x18 lathes, Reid 2C surface grinder. Duro Bandsaw and lots of tooling from 30+ years in the machining trades and 15+ years in refinery units. Now retired
'96 Birmingham mill, Enco 13x40 GH and Craftsman 6x18 lathes, Reid 2C surface grinder. Duro Bandsaw and lots of tooling from 30+ years in the machining trades and 15+ years in refinery units. Now retired