Building the Bellevue and Cascade Railroad Ox in 2 1/2 scale

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ERIE S-1 BERKSHIRES
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Re: Building the Bellevue and Cascade Railroad Ox in 2 1/2 scale

Post by ERIE S-1 BERKSHIRES » Sat Mar 20, 2021 5:52 pm

Finally decided to go with tapered roller bearings on the axles but the inner diameter on the bearings would not allow me to use my real trains Wheels! So I must order new steel for wheels and axles so I should be back working on this by the middle of April

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Re: Building the Bellevue and Cascade Railroad Ox in 2 1/2 scale

Post by BClemens » Sat Mar 27, 2021 7:42 am

How will you power this locomotive? Looks like you need about a 2' long four cylinder engine...diesel! Like a Kohler 23 HP Diesel Engine With Electric Start KDW1003-1001 - it's 20.25" long but only three cylinders...

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Re: Building the Bellevue and Cascade Railroad Ox in 2 1/2 scale

Post by ERIE S-1 BERKSHIRES » Sat Mar 27, 2021 10:20 pm

Hello BC!! Original plan was to put a Kohler 8 horsepower in cab couple to Eaton hydrostatic 11 pump then a single hydraulic motor between the axles. New plan is to experiment with a motor on each axle 24 volt if not successful I will put a single motor with 2 horsepower and a 4 QD controller.

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Re: Building the Bellevue and Cascade Railroad Ox in 2 1/2 scale

Post by ERIE S-1 BERKSHIRES » Wed Apr 07, 2021 1:07 pm

Ordered 1 inch by 8 inch bar stock 8 inches long 4 pieces to cut the Wheels out of on the rotary table, Plus 1 3/8
Cold rolled for the axles will pick up Friday 😎 if you're wondering how much the steel cost 3🤬🤬 dollars🤯

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Re: Building the Bellevue and Cascade Railroad Ox in 2 1/2 scale

Post by Pontiacguy1 » Wed Apr 07, 2021 2:16 pm

The guys at Richland Steel where I have been getting steel from for a long time said that in February 2020, typical hot rolled or cold rolled shape steel (angle, channel, rectangular tubing, flat bar, etc...) was running at about $0.45 per pound. Back about a month ago, it was running $0.95 per pound! That's just for the steel, in common shapes and sizes that most yards would keep in stock. Not including any cutting charges, taxes, etc... No telling how much specialty shapes or alloys have gone up!

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Re: Building the Bellevue and Cascade Railroad Ox in 2 1/2 scale

Post by Glenn Brooks » Sun Apr 11, 2021 9:31 am

Ernie, great start on your Loco. If it helps any, the local steelyard near me said their price just went up 3x, from what it was last year. :(

Btw, Iam working on a center cab ET -electric train - restore. I sourced a couple of used forklift traction motors for next to nothing from our local electric vehicle club forum. They make ideal traction motors if you can fit them into the frame . Look for the series wound 36-72v style . Needs more batteries but uses smaller wiring with less current flow, the higher the voltage...

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Re: Building the Bellevue and Cascade Railroad Ox in 2 1/2 scale

Post by ERIE S-1 BERKSHIRES » Sun Apr 11, 2021 9:30 pm

Work today on roughing out a square into a round wheel blank 1 down 3 to go
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Re: Building the Bellevue and Cascade Railroad Ox in 2 1/2 scale

Post by apm » Sun Apr 18, 2021 11:36 am

For those wheels do you have any places that specializes in doing CNC flame cutting? When I needed the frames for my locomotive I looked into buying the metal as bar stock but it was far cheaper burned from plate and it also comes in near net shape. I think half the cost on 1x8 steel bar offs just the cost of stocking it for the few odd guys that need 1x8 and can't get something burned from plate

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Re: Building the Bellevue and Cascade Railroad Ox in 2 1/2 scale

Post by ERIE S-1 BERKSHIRES » Sun Apr 18, 2021 8:59 pm

Three down one to go😬 then we need to figure out how to hold them in my little 9 inch South Bend so I can bore out the center to 1.250". I did consider having them plasma cut out but I didn't want to surface the front or back of them just because of possible warpage??

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Re: Building the Bellevue and Cascade Railroad Ox in 2 1/2 scale

Post by ERIE S-1 BERKSHIRES » Sun May 09, 2021 4:59 pm

Finally made up my mind after the four blanks are were roughed out! Easier just to cut a recess on the backside of the wheel .250 deep so able to hold in three jaw Chuck instead of trying to buy another Chuck. outside diameter is turned to 7 1/2 in finished diameter will be at the flange 7.250, also need to bore out to 1.250 only two are roughed out flat belt decided to give up the ghost on the Old South Bend.
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Re: Building the Bellevue and Cascade Railroad Ox in 2 1/2 scale

Post by ERIE S-1 BERKSHIRES » Thu May 13, 2021 8:40 pm

Trip to AutoZone to get a 34 inch serpentine belt lathe is back in action and Bulletproof
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Re: Building the Bellevue and Cascade Railroad Ox in 2 1/2 scale

Post by ERIE S-1 BERKSHIRES » Thu May 20, 2021 10:16 pm

Been playing with bearings spacing
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