Woodinville Shops

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Re: Woodinville Shops

Post by kcameron » Thu Sep 17, 2020 7:22 pm

I have a SB 10" lathe that was used for wood. Biggest thing I had to do was take the apron off and clear it out of all the chips and dust. The the feeds started working again.
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Re: Woodinville Shops

Post by rkcarguy » Tue Oct 06, 2020 1:49 pm

Glenn Brooks wrote:
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Spent the last few days welding up a table for my NOS SB 9” lathe. Picked up the lathe off Craigslist couple of years ago, covered in sawdust, dried oil and cobwebs. As I suspected, the ways and bearings surfaces in the spindle and cross slide are pristine - still exhibit factory scrap marks and flaking all over. The lathe was manufactured in 1925, used for woodworking for a few years, then placed in storage until I bought it. The machine oil and sawdust made a terrific preservative. No rust or corrosion at all, until after I cleaned it all up.3C002A0F-C872-4849-87D9-34AB275A0072.jpeg

End view...
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Now also, the gear box needs freeing up. Not sure what’s happening, but the gear selector lever doesn’t move - so, assume dried oil and sawdust have gummed it up. Once I get the table built, I’ll take a crack at freeing up the Quick change gear box and see how it runs. (Am expecting good as new precision)

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I started a small build log in the Chaski Lathe forum. So won’t go into much more detail here. Except to post a pic of the work to date.

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Planning on painting the frame and mounting the table top and lathe soon after. Will post some pics when finished.

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That's an amazing find! What did you have to cough up for that?

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Re: Woodinville Shops

Post by Glenn Brooks » Tue Oct 06, 2020 8:55 pm

6 bills, don’t tell anyone. Haha!
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Re: Woodinville Shops

Post by Glenn Brooks » Tue Oct 13, 2020 9:53 pm

Well, time to bring one of the poor old yard goats into the shop and give it a new lease on life. The plan is for the roundhouse crew to widen the engineers cab 4” each side, lower the roof profile, add proper foot boards and hand rails both sides, extend the front and rear decks, and give er some paint.

Make it look like a proper Steeple Cab or maybe a GE 44 tonner Center Cab. BTW, looking for theming ideas and a snappy color,scheme!

Thinking a nice deep Forest Green with yellow/gold trim stripe and shinny black running gear. Maybe even larger drivers.

Then electrify both trucks with forklift motors and fill up the hood ends with batteries. My goal is to pull 8,000 # consist, if possible. If not, 6,000# would be nice - three loaded passenger cars - 4 Or 5 with Covid loading - maybe 3 or 4 people per car...

The other interesting thing Iam exploring is how, or whether, it is possible to run electrics as a double header. Opens up the possibility of building a b unit and adding more tractive effort. Cool stuff if it’s possible, er, affordable...

But first, had to build another engine stand, lift the beast into the air to put on said stand, and roll it into the shop.
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The gantry didn’t work out. Couldn’t lift the loco up high enuf to sit on the stand. My bad. Made the stand 2” to tall... and didn’t want to mess with jacking up the gantry bridge another foot by my self.
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The old engine hoist came thru again!
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Nothing to it, as it turns out...
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Looks like the trucks will come right off.
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Re: Woodinville Shops

Post by Benjamin Maggi » Wed Oct 14, 2020 1:06 pm

Regarding your color scheme ideas...

Chicago & North Western #1199
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Re: Woodinville Shops

Post by Glenn Brooks » Mon Oct 26, 2020 11:14 pm

Thanks Benjamin, I think it’s a toss up between bright yellow and a high gloss light fluorescent green. Sherwin Williams calls it Hummingbird green, I suppose because of the golden green features around its neck.

Heading out tomorrow to look over a bunch of used 9” diameter 24v electric forklift (7.5 hp/5kw) motors. I’ve settled on powering one truck, with some high amperage batteries to see how it runs compared to the theoretical traction effort I’ve calculated. If I see adequate performance, then be worthwhile to spend the money on further upgrades - another motor for the other truck, more batteries, 9” diameter drivers, beefier truck frames, etc.

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Re: Woodinville Shops

Post by Glenn Brooks » Sat Oct 31, 2020 1:34 am

The B-14 Rocketliner arrived the other day. Didn’t realize what it was until I broke down the crate and started sorting out all the miscellaneous parts. I bought it as an old barn find, advertised on eBay as a 12” Ottaway train shell and box of miscellaneous parts. Shocked to discover the old, original axles were turned to 14” gauge, and all the casting numbers were stamped with B-14. So it’s the last in the lineage of Ottaway 70 passenger park trains.

Here it is yarded up on a flat car, sitting in the freight yard, awaiting train orders for transport to the backshops for restoration.

I’ll finally be able to say I’ve actually made a freight run!

Glenn
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Re: Woodinville Shops

Post by NP317 » Sat Oct 31, 2020 10:39 am

Wow! That is quite a find!!
Appropriate that you have it now.
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Re: Woodinville Shops

Post by Glenn Brooks » Sun Nov 15, 2020 10:42 pm

Here it is, heading into the third week in November. Train fitters in the back shop just finished re working the Ottaway’s cross head driven water pump and plumbing.
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(The water pump assembly and related fittings are color coded blue in the photos. The copper line immediately above is the pressure air brake line running aft from the cylinder mounted air pump. The cross head shaft drives both the air pump and water pump.)

This is the second rehab this summer for the pump assembly and plumbing. The first rebuild couldn’t produce more than about 25# water pressure at the boiler. Wowfully low. So, replaced the packing, rerouted the intake and high pressure output lines to make a more clean and straight run from the tender thru the pump and up to the boiler.
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This schematic eliminates two potentially leaky joints at the pump and 4 right angle turns that could have been killing my pressure input into the boiler.

Also, put in a tee at the end of the return line, and remounted a high pressure Water Gauge on the back head.
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Also replaced the needle valve- which was 70 years old and possibly a primary suspect in pressure loss.
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So now everything should be on the up and up. Planning one more steam up in the next day or so, to test the pump and clean the engine for winter layup.

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Re: Woodinville Shops

Post by Glenn Brooks » Sat Nov 21, 2020 2:00 am

Winter’s coming. Finally closed out the season, such as it was, by backshopping the locos for maintenance and restoration. Moved three locos and a couple of cars into storage or the shop, yesterday and today. All derailed, one after another- all over the yard. Even the old experienced yard goat, with the new, rebuilt trucks. Unbelievable. Clearly they didn’t want to get put to bed. Except, the B-14 Rocketliner, of course, which does not as yet, have any trucks. So, was the only one that couldn’t jump off the track. Good train.

I did get a lot of use out of Mr. Gantry and the 2 ton engine hoist. They are good chaps and helped put everyone back where they belong.

Finally strapped each loco down tight on its table, with comealongs, as I don’t come back from vacation and find them all laying around the floor of shop.
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