New Cagney 4-4-0

Discuss park gauge trains and large scale miniature railways having track gauges from 8" to 24" gauge and designed at scales of 2" to the foot or greater - whether modeled for personal use, or purpose built for amusement park operation or private railroading.

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New Cagney 4-4-0

Post by Glenn Brooks » Wed Nov 23, 2022 12:07 am

Accidentally acquired a partially complete, brand new, 15” ga class D Cagney frame and boiler this week from the Wasatch Auction in Cheyene. I logged an on line bid as a placeholder several weeks ago, then forgot to go back and cancel it. Couple of days ago the auctioneer called and said: “Hey, you’ve only got two days left to remove your loco from the premises!” My wife was not happy.

But Iam.

Hahaha. So now, after the shock has worn off, Can’t wait to start building it out and add an actual Cagney to the roster.

Frame, boiler and running gear appear to be already built. It’s missing drivers, main rods and the cab. Ive found a couple of possible sources for the drivers, but nothing is definite yet. The pony truck may or may not be in a box of parts. The big issue seems to be a general lack of surviving drawings for parts. Looks like the boiler is 14” diameter, 48” long. Heating surface around 16 sq ft. And it appears to be stamped as a code boiler.- but need to confirm…

The good thing is this build is brand new- fresh off the floor. Never finished before Wasatch shut down a year or two ago. The original patterns aren’t available through Wasatch , but are rumored to still exist with a private individual. So Now, time to start chasing the rumors about who might have them, and are they available for parts. Another plus is a small bit enthusiastic and helpful Cagney owners group and bunch of 15” gauge railroaders. Ive put out a couple of feelers for assistance and have gotten a number of excellent replies. Building this out should be fun!
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Cagney brothers made around 1500 locomotives between 1885 and end of the company in 1950. A fair number of the originals still survive. Wasatch made perhaps six engines. One or two were sold into private hands. Two sold at auction. And one or two are unaccounted for. This one is one of the two sold at the auction in Cheyene, last week.

Here’s what they look like in running order:
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More excellent adventures in the shop forthcoming…
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Motive power : 1902 A.S.Campbell 4-4-0 American - 12 5/8" gauge, 1955 Ottaway 4-4-0 American 12" gauge

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Re: New Cagney 4-4-0

Post by djjh87 » Wed Nov 23, 2022 5:21 am

Glenn, Nice looking start to to a little powerhouse. Crown metal locomotives in particular the 15" and 24" boilers and running gear were similar to the cagney simple and robust. I have a 24" gauge Crown in the barn waiting to be refreshed and a mile of 12 lbs rail. (Half mile of track). I might be willing to sell or trade for.......... Jim

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Re: New Cagney 4-4-0

Post by thej611 » Wed Nov 23, 2022 11:04 am

Was hunting around facebook Found this . Dont know if it will help

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Re: New Cagney 4-4-0

Post by djjh87 » Wed Nov 30, 2022 11:31 am

Hi Glenn, I was able to get close enough to take a picture of the Crown in my storage barn. Jim
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Re: New Cagney 4-4-0

Post by Glenn Brooks » Wed Nov 30, 2022 5:25 pm

Jim, you have basically just described the storage space in my shop also.
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Motive power : 1902 A.S.Campbell 4-4-0 American - 12 5/8" gauge, 1955 Ottaway 4-4-0 American 12" gauge

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