nuts and bolts in scale

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Chris Hollands
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Re: nuts and bolts in scale

Post by Chris Hollands » Sat Jun 02, 2018 11:43 pm

I make all my nuts and bolts out of s/s with built in washers on the head and nut then you can make the nut and bolt to suit the application and the look you want .
You can make scale heads with oversize shanks for strength .
What I do now is buy standard bolts and machine the bolt head to the scale size I want , I use all metric now so I buy from the UK and hobby companies in the US .
Down side - it is time consuming to do this but whats the rush .

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Re: nuts and bolts in scale

Post by Howard Gorin » Mon Jun 04, 2018 9:45 am

I have for sale the stainless steel hardware formerly sold by Real Trains.
I am also working on making more Archbar trucks.
Other trucks wil be made as time allows.

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Re: nuts and bolts in scale

Post by FLtenwheeler » Mon Jun 04, 2018 10:03 am

Thank you Howard.

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Re: nuts and bolts in scale

Post by steamingdon » Mon Jun 04, 2018 2:39 pm

:lol: I don`t think you have that kind of time left. :lol: :lol:
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Re: nuts and bolts in scale

Post by steamingdon » Mon Jun 04, 2018 2:46 pm

I don`t think you have that kind of time left.
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Re: nuts and bolts in scale

Post by rkcarguy » Mon Jun 04, 2018 6:42 pm

I've had good luck with McMaster-Carr on #4-40 screws with a hex head in stainless if you can't find anything else.

https://www.mcmaster.com/#standard-hex- ... s/=1d56rs4

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Re: nuts and bolts in scale

Post by johnpenn74 » Tue Jun 05, 2018 8:02 pm

Use Metric and live with the hex head. all the way down to 3mm in A2 stainless or zinc. Mcmaster has them all.
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Re: nuts and bolts in scale

Post by Trainman4602 » Wed Jun 06, 2018 2:03 pm

Go right to the source
J. I. Morris The have thd sizes fro 000-120 to 2-56 in hex round fillister and flat heads lengths to 1/2 long on the larger sizes.

BTW you have to buy quantity but so what . if you only need a few go to the local hobby store or go to Walthers in Chicago Ill.

Here is the link to the J. I. Morris web site
https://jimorrisco.com/

For sizes from 3 -48 to 10-32 see Wayne Godshall American Model Engineering
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Re: nuts and bolts in scale

Post by hoppercar » Sat Jul 28, 2018 9:40 am

Godshalls has taken over the american model co. I have recently ordered from them, Just call them up, place order on the phone, and its mailed out right away!! Very nice people to deal with !!

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Re: nuts and bolts in scale

Post by 8thscale » Sun Jun 23, 2019 8:54 pm

I'll second that! Same great service as the original owners.
I placed an order via email, paid and got my order very quickly!

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Re: nuts and bolts in scale

Post by hoppercar » Mon Jun 24, 2019 7:38 am

godshalls, is the place to go for model nuts and bolts....call them up, they take debit card over the phone, and ship the same day.......couldn't be easier....great people to deal with

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Re: nuts and bolts in scale

Post by Rwilliams » Mon Jun 24, 2019 9:08 am

With most of the model hex nuts and bolts being scaled down from the standard sizes of hex nuts and bolts, the appearance is OK for most but not all models. What many do not realize is the major locomotive builders for years used only heavy or extra heavy hex nuts and bolts from one end of a steamer to the other. Where the hex nut or bolt will not be seen most any fastener of needed size can be used and covered in black paint. Where the fastener will be seen in easy view, I try to scale the nut or bolt head as close as possible and make the head hex size as close as possible from hex stock. Metric hex stock is becoming easier to find and gives more options to achieve the desired appearance for discriminating model builders.

I recently scaled the extra heavy nuts on a full size steamer that secured the coupler pocket to the pilot beam. The standard 10-32 model hex nut was not even close to what I really needed. Once I made up a set of extra heavy hex nuts for the coupler pocket studs, the visual presentation became so much nicer looking. Years ago I used to think model hex nuts and bolts were the gold standard. Today, it is understood that scaling the full size fastener is the gold standard.

With this in mind, the owners of the mass production screw machines might want to begin offering heavy or extra heavy hex nuts and bolts for our model building efforts. This would surely bring a new level of detail quality to the hobby that has been long overdue. I discussed this once with the late Barry Hauge of Superscale. Barry did in fact make scale nuts as needed for his product line, but was not interested in a full line of extra heavy nuts and bolts as he was already too busy.

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