Help With Painting Using Mask

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Pipescs
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Help With Painting Using Mask

Post by Pipescs » Sun Oct 14, 2018 8:33 am

Good Morning All,

My new project is at the point of painting.

I am looking for help with painting boxcar sides that are planked with boards having routed edges
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The car is a 1.5 inch standoff scale, 26 foot boxcar to pull behind a LE American. This to go with a bobber caboose of the same construction.
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The car is a plywood body planked using 1/2" wide pine. Each plank has a bevel on each side.
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I have ordered mask for them both from Connie at Miracle Graphics. Having used them on smooth surfaces I gave no thought as to how to use them on uneven surfaces. These were the proofs
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Do I force it into the bevels? or just airbrush or stipple it dry with a brush?

Any advise, from those who have done it, greatly appreciated.
Charlie Pipes
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2.5 Baldwin 2-4-2/2-4-4/0-4-4 Conversion (What ever)
Little Engines American Restoration
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Re: Help With Painting Using Mask

Post by pat1027 » Sun Oct 14, 2018 8:47 am

You can the mask over the grooves without forcing it in. Use an airbrush angled so the paint carries over the gap between the boards (not into it). Go easy with the air brush. Ray Grosser (excellent modeler) letters cars this way and they look sharp. I ran into a similar problem lettering my tender where the edged of the mask came across rivets. I couldn't get the mask to stay tight around the rivets. It came out nice.

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Re: Help With Painting Using Mask

Post by Pipescs » Sun Oct 14, 2018 10:07 am

Thanks. The mask are coming in tomorrow. I ordered two sets in case I screw one up
Charlie Pipes
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Bobber Caboose

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Re: Help With Painting Using Mask

Post by jcbrock » Sun Oct 14, 2018 11:01 am

One thing you can do is after the mask is applied, seal the edges by applying the background color again, and then after that has dried apply the desired foreground color. Personally I like stippling with a stenciling brush, I feel like that helps minimize bleeding by applying the minimum amount of paint.
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Re: Help With Painting Using Mask

Post by Pipescs » Sun Oct 14, 2018 12:00 pm

I had forgotten the trick of sealing it with the base color. I am leaning toward the dry brush stippling method also. The plan is to do the numbers first
Charlie Pipes
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2.5 Baldwin 2-4-2/2-4-4/0-4-4 Conversion (What ever)
Little Engines American Restoration
Bobber Caboose

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Re: Help With Painting Using Mask

Post by Kevin S » Sun Oct 14, 2018 12:48 pm

One trick to get the paint mask over uneven surfaces is to take a hair dryer and heat up the vinyl and push it down to conform over the uneven surface.
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Re: Help With Painting Using Mask

Post by kenrinc » Thu Oct 18, 2018 5:53 pm

I did the stipple method on my bobber caboose. Just a brush with cut down bristles. Don't expect full coverage on the 1st coat (or more so, don't try to get full coverage). Let the first coat dry and then do another. Once you get a solid color you can go in for the details that may cross kerf boundaries in the wood sides. After the mask is removed you can get in closer with a small size brush for details.

Brian (makinsmoke) had a post awhile back detailing the process: viewtopic.php?f=33&t=90539&hilit=paint+mask&start=12

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Re: Help With Painting Using Mask

Post by Pipescs » Fri Oct 19, 2018 9:28 pm

I followed the same process. I used a small stiff brush for the stippling and a small brush to touch it up.

I had Connie do me two sets of mask, figuring it would be better to have a set in case I did not like how it turned out. This ran $68.00 total

The stippling process seems to be the way to go.

As it is a stand-off scale of a make believe car, I have not went too crazy on it.

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The Dry Creek & Western being a small backwoods line using older second had equipment, nothing is allowed to look shiney and new.

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Still a long way to go. I need to finish the walkways, brake wheels, end doors, ladder rungs and then weathering.

The brake system and whistle is finished and works good on the bench. I hope to get it out to the track this next week for a rolling test with the engine. At 20 psi it has drag, at thirty it locks the wheels.

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Charlie Pipes
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2.5 Baldwin 2-4-2/2-4-4/0-4-4 Conversion (What ever)
Little Engines American Restoration
Bobber Caboose

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Re: Help With Painting Using Mask

Post by Harold_V » Sat Oct 20, 2018 2:49 am

Nice looking car, Charlie. :wink:

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