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Re: Thieves caught on video stealing mini steam train in West Seattle

Posted: Thu May 30, 2019 2:09 pm
by Glenn Brooks
Hello All,

I know many of us are dismayed by this theft. Also, many of us in the Seattle area and beyond, know the gentleman who owns the shop where this burglary occurred. Here below is a bit more info about the incident. There are some additional identifying characteristics of the loco floating around on Facebook - although I will have to go dig to find them.

The location of the burglary is an independent living facility in West Seattle, having a private, enclosed ground level parking area. One of our KLS members lives in the facility and has a machine shop inside the parking area. The loco had just been transported from Bellingham to this shop for a hydrotest, but normally resides in Bellingham. None of the club members I spoke with this week knows the loco or the guy up in Blaine who owns it. So it’s not apparently, at all well known in the Seattle area, and perhaps rarely if ever has been here, before the theft. Also, it’s interesting to me that the shop owner was down in Train Mountain this week, so not resident in the building.

All of which suggests these two dirt bag burglars had some, possibly extensive, inside knowledge regarding the timing and placement of the locomotive. Contrary to what one poster has alluded, these two thieves are not Honduran immigrant women and children asylum seekers rolling the loco out of Ken’s shop. They appear to be young white guys in new, trendy, camo outfits, wearing sneakers, who are quite comfortable pushing this loco, or similar loco’s, around on stands. AND they knew precisely that the engine was temporarily stored in West Seattle, and would fit into their pickup - either because their relatives live in the building,and they saw it when it was brought in, or, they somehow are connected to the owner’s train concession up in Blaine. In any event, these guys pretty clearly had inside knowledge about the location and availability of the locomotive. Interestingly, it appears they did not steal the tender or anything else - although the video clips I saw were an incomplete record.

For the moment, we all can help raise awareness by circulating the photos to local salvage yards, our personal social networks and friends, and the live steam community in our local areas. Somebody, somewhere will see this loco and hopefully, report it to the local police.

Glenn

Re: Thieves caught on video stealing mini steam train in West Seattle

Posted: Thu May 30, 2019 4:32 pm
by Glenn Brooks
Update: here are a couple of photos of the thieves in action, and their pickup. Hopefully one of the video stills will illuminate the license plate. A local FB poster commented the one on the right may be a slender woman, because of small hands and feet,( and generally thin torso). Notice they are possibly sharing a full camo suit - top on the thin one, knee length camo pants on the guy on the left.

GPB

Re: Thieves caught on video stealing mini steam train in West Seattle

Posted: Tue Jun 04, 2019 4:05 pm
by rkcarguy
I hope they are caught.
Truck looks like a dark colored extended cab F150?
I have heard of the concession up in Blaine but have not seen it, you think someone from the area up there was involved?
We have a decent sized group of "eastern Europeans" in the area that are good at making things disappear and seem to have a broad range of taste. Cars, boats, trailers, motorcycles, go karts(a family friend had half of his rental karts stolen), you name it.

Re: Thieves caught on video stealing mini steam train in West Seattle

Posted: Tue Jun 04, 2019 7:34 pm
by Glenn Brooks
Ryan, haven’t been caught yet. hard to say how they discovered the location. Loco was temporarily down in So. Seattle for a new boiler design. Never been here before, apparently. Last 30 years it was in the Blaine area. So how these two thieves knew it was here really limits the suspect pool to someone associated with the train, or the housing area where it was stolen, in my opinion. Might learn more tomorrow at the KLS breakfast meet up.

Glenn

Re: Thieves caught on video stealing mini steam train in West Seattle

Posted: Fri Jun 21, 2019 7:44 am
by BAdams
Hey Glenn,
Were there any updates to this robbery?

Brook

Re: Thieves caught on video stealing mini steam train in West Seattle

Posted: Tue Jul 02, 2019 2:36 pm
by rkcarguy
Seattle isn't even busting drug dealers that have less than a certain amount on them, so I'm not going to hold my breath as much as I'd like to see these thieves caught. It's sad because even if it was insured you can't just go to the nearest large scale train lot and get another one, years of work goes into building a steamer.

Re: Thieves caught on video stealing mini steam train in West Seattle

Posted: Wed Jul 03, 2019 8:56 pm
by hoppercar
it never ceases to amaze me how much surveilance video, is always, blurry, shaky, grainy, out of focus, at the wrong angle, to light , to dark, and being just generally useless

Re: Thieves caught on video stealing mini steam train in West Seattle

Posted: Sun Jul 07, 2019 11:15 am
by SteveM
hoppercar wrote:
Wed Jul 03, 2019 8:56 pm
it never ceases to amaze me how much surveilance video, is always, blurry, shaky, grainy, out of focus, at the wrong angle, to light , to dark, and being just generally useless
One problem is that many people mount the cameras up high so that nobody will steal the cameras.

A friend did that and all she can tell about the people that stole her car is that they were wearing hoodies. Can't even get a good height reference nor can she tell if they were men or women.

But her cameras are safe.

Steve

Re: Thieves caught on video stealing mini steam train in West Seattle

Posted: Sun Jul 07, 2019 11:29 am
by hoppercar
well that's good, the camera is safe..lol lol...at least you can but another camera....to bad, you can't get another locomotive that easily...I sure hope there caught soon.

Re: Thieves caught on video stealing mini steam train in West Seattle

Posted: Tue Dec 31, 2019 8:18 pm
by Bill C
Just thinking about weird stuff that happened this year and was curious if these folks were caught and if the locomotive was recovered?

Thanks!

Bill

Re: Thieves caught on video stealing mini steam train in West Seattle

Posted: Thu Jan 02, 2020 2:08 pm
by Glenn Brooks
Bill,

So far as I know, no followup and still no suspects.

Glenn

Re: Thieves caught on video stealing mini steam train in West Seattle

Posted: Sat Jan 25, 2020 8:40 pm
by Cabbagestack
I'm having trouble understanding how they manhandle (with one of the thieves being a smaller person!) the 1300 lb. engine @ 00:45 in the video. Although the newscaster said "1300 lbs" -- even so, in the video it appears as though the thieves are not having too hard a time manhandling it, from what I can see. How would two of them lower that engine down to the pavement, or better still how would they pick it back up from the pavement and load it onto the back of their pickup truck? Something about this is not adding up.