Uintah #20 0-6-2t

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Uintah #20 0-6-2t

Post by KidAmato » Wed Sep 18, 2019 11:46 am

Hello Friends,
I am in search of drawings for the Uintah #20 0-6-2t. It will aid in the development of a very cool project I am working on to hopefully bring something new to the community.

The ideal scenario would be to have an erection drawing of the entire locomotive. However, the main dimensions I am searching for are:

- Wheelbase
- Driver Diameter
- Boiler Diameter
- Overall length
- Width
- Height


Any information on this locomotive along with the railroad itself is much appreciated. If anyone has a picture of the controls on the back-head from any of the Uintah locomotives, that would also be fantastic :D .


Thank you all for your time.


Nico
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Re: Uintah #20 0-6-2t

Post by Fender » Thu Sep 19, 2019 5:40 pm

The website steamlocomotive.com is a good starting point for these engines. It has driver diameter (34”), driver wheelbase (7.25’), cylinder bore & stroke (13” x 18”) and other details.
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Re: Uintah #20 0-6-2t

Post by K. Brouwers » Thu Sep 19, 2019 9:09 pm

Good day.
Here are a few photos I have gleaned from the web. One of mt favorite railroads and engines.
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Re: Uintah #20 0-6-2t

Post by jcbrock » Fri Sep 20, 2019 5:31 pm

The Henry Bender book has the Baldwin erecting card diagram. I do not know what is in the two-volume Rodger Polley book set.
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Re: Uintah #20 0-6-2t

Post by Doug_Edwards » Fri Sep 20, 2019 5:37 pm

The De Golyer library at SMU has an erecting diagram for a Uintah 0-6-2 built in 1905. I have no idea if it is the same engine or not. Might be worth a look.

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Re: Uintah #20 0-6-2t

Post by Fender » Fri Sep 20, 2019 9:41 pm

The steamlocomotive.com site also listed Degolyer as a reference. I believe there were only two of these built, both in 1905.
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Re: Uintah #20 0-6-2t

Post by jcbrock » Sat Sep 21, 2019 12:11 pm

Model RR Magazine Index says there are drawings in the Narrow Gauge and Short Line Gazette Sept/Oct 1989 and Mar/Apr 1994 issues and surprisingly (to me anyway) Railroad Model Craftsman Nov 1953.
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Re: Uintah #20 0-6-2t

Post by KidAmato » Sun Sep 22, 2019 3:10 am

Thank you for the responses!
Super cool pictures!

Yes the De Goyler library does have the drawings. Karel was nice enough to send me the information I needed.

Fender, yes there were only two built. #20 and #21 at the Uintah Railway. You can see ever so subtle differences between the two. And no, the numbering is not one of those differences 😂.


To anyone interested, I am formulating the first post for the new build series. Super excited to share it with you guys. I think it will compliment the little forney build well and provide something new to the community. That’s the hope I have at least.


Nico
7-1/2” gauge 5” scale 2-4-4t
7-1/2” gauge Fitchburg Northern
4-3/4” gauge 1.5” scale 0-4-4t
3-1/2" gauge Kozo a3 narrow gauge bash
3-1/2” gauge large boiler Tich

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Re: Uintah #20 0-6-2t

Post by FKreider » Sun Sep 22, 2019 8:03 am

Ross Grant of Pioneer Valley Live Steamers scratch built a Uintah Mallet in 1" scale. I know its not what you are looking for but thought it was neat enough to post!
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Pic credit: François Desaulniers of MLS.

It can also be seen at the 27:44 min mark on the PVLS 50th Anniversary video on YouTube:
https://youtu.be/i2LO56QECJA?t=1664
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Re: Uintah #20 0-6-2t

Post by NP317 » Sun Sep 22, 2019 9:43 am

Minor correction: Unitah ran simple articulateds, not Mallets.

I've operated full-sized Mallets, thus my knowledge base.
Ross Grant's locomotive is spectacular!
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Re: Uintah #20 0-6-2t

Post by ironhorseriley » Sun Sep 22, 2019 10:51 pm

Awesome! I am excited about this proposed project! #20 & 21 have been narrowed down to my favorite locomotives to model. I am pouring all over my Sweet Pea drawings & book as well as taking notes from many mentors on this site as well as articles from Kozo to start my first 7.5" gauge loco in 2.5" scale. I would prefer to build a model i am most interested in, but keep being very advised to stick with simpler tried & true designs for a first build, which I do believe is the best advice for a beginner. I now have access to a couple of other live steamers nearby, so I may soon be building cars & a speeder or critter diesel.

I don't really want to build several live steam locos, just one. If feasible, a version of #20 or 21 would be it!
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Re: Uintah #20 0-6-2t

Post by K. Brouwers » Sun Sep 22, 2019 11:56 pm

Hello Nico,
I had a look in my photos of moving the La Carlotta Sugar Mill engines and found this.
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Perhaps it will help modeling the rear truck. The engine is a 3' gauge Baldwin 0-6-2. If you had really deep pockets it could serve as the basis for a full size kit bash. :lol:
Cheers
Karel

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