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Baldwin Locomotive Drawing Resources

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Hey Everyone,

Does anyone have libraries, societies, and museums to reach out to for Baldwin drawings? I am looking for drawing information on a 70-C-9 Vanderbilt tender. I just reached out to the Sacramento Museum and the Southern Pacific Historical and Technical society, since this was for a Southern Pacific Locomotive. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

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After about 1940, Pennsylvania State Archives has an extensive collection of Baldwin Drawings. Before that I don't have any experience although I understand that the DeGolyer Library at Southern Methodist University has a limited collection of earlier drawings.
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Mr_Blond,

The Cal. State RR Museum Library does have the Erecting Card for the 70-C-9: https://csrm.andornot.com/en/permalink/techdrawing669

The instructions and form for ordering a copy can be found here: https://www.californiarailroad.museum/v ... rary/forms


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I have used the DeGolyer Library at Southern Methodist University in the past (2018 if I recall). It helped to know the Baldwin number of exactly what I was looking for.
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Mr_Blonde wrote: Tue Mar 03, 2020 11:37 pm Hey Everyone,

Does anyone have libraries, societies, and museums to reach out to for Baldwin drawings? I am looking for drawing information on a 70-C-9 Vanderbilt tender. I just reached out to the Sacramento Museum and the Southern Pacific Historical and Technical society, since this was for a Southern Pacific Locomotive. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks
I'm curious what loco you are building that this will go behind? The 70-C-9 was the cut down version that usually was behind an 0-6-0 switcher, but some times found behind a consol or mogul.

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Search the archives, this has been covered previously.
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Doug,

I am building a Southern Pacific Mogul number 1629.

Thanks everyone who has posted recommended resources. I reached out to CSRRM and they only have a drawing that I already own. I will reach out to the others shortly.
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Here is a in service pic of the engine with a 70-C-9 tender behind it that a friend sent me and gave me permission to post to the board.

Note the over sized 20" head light. It makes the smokebox front look rather small.

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Thanks Doug! I do not have that particular picture. It's always nice to find additional reference photos. Is the headlamp a Sunbeam? Sometime in its service it went from that headlamp to a Pyle National. I am using the Pyle National since I don't have to make it from scratch.
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The headlight on the SP loco is likely a pre-1920 Pyle-National 20".

The odd number boards are very typical of early P-N lights, so's the front lens door.
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David,

I'm interested in your comment on the head light being an early Pyle National. Do you have any references to early Pyle products? I was told years ago by the retired shop foreman of Eugene, that these head lights were shop made on the SP. The few I have been able to examine had no identification plates on them, nor did I see an holes left from attaching one. With the construction I observed, it seemed likely the were shop made.

The image I posted had no info on the date, location, or the photographer

I have attached a diagram for the M4 class and 70-c-9 tender that were also supplied by my friend that supplied the image.

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(L) DIAGRAM SP TENDER 70-C-9   (01).jpg
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