Tuscon Red Paint

This forum is dedicated to the Live Steam Hobbyist Community.

Moderators: Harold_V, WJH, cbrew

User avatar
backyardrails
Posts: 216
Joined: Fri Sep 03, 2004 8:08 pm

Tuscon Red Paint

Post by backyardrails » Fri Apr 03, 2020 4:59 pm

Hi All
I think this came up before. Where can I find Tuscon Red paint? I have a 3/4" Canadian Pacific engine and some rolling stock that I would like to refurbish.
Thanks
Bernie Grow

User avatar
ccvstmr
Posts: 1795
Joined: Sat Jan 04, 2003 10:37 am
Location: New Lenox, IL

Re: Tuscon Red Paint

Post by ccvstmr » Fri Apr 03, 2020 5:26 pm

Well Bernie...Tuscan red is one of those colors that's not red and not brown, but could be almost any shade in between.

Here's an idea to try...Rustoleum red primer and cover that over with semi-gloss clear coat. Have used this technique on different parts of my locomotive and a stock car I built for a friend. Carl B.

IMG_0599.JPG
Life is like a sewer...what you get out of it depends on what you put into it!
I don't walk on water...I just learned where some of the stepping stones are!
I love mankind...it's some of the people I can't stand!

Steve Bratina
Posts: 1055
Joined: Tue Jan 16, 2007 9:39 pm
Location: Cambridge Ontario

Re: Tuscon Red Paint

Post by Steve Bratina » Sat Apr 04, 2020 8:12 am

Hello Bernie,
CPR Tucson red can be imitated using Krylon Burgundy. I have used this on a few projects both live steam and HO. To match the original paint right out of a can is impossible due to weathering, fading and paint recipes from years ago changing to environmentally friendly stuff. Rex Smith's engines were CPR Tucson but were repainted using Krylon. The 3161 has original Tucson I believe on the ears but I am just leaving it as is due to it's history. Unless I am thinking of a different colour, take a sample or picture of what you have and try to match it on the paint isle. You could at one time take it to an auto paint supply and they could mix up something close but those stores are non essential and are closed for the foreseeable future.
Using "can ready" stuff makes touch ups much easier and close enough is good enough for the girls we go out with. Jim might have some other suggestions as he probably deals with paints more than me.
Stay safe.

User avatar
backyardrails
Posts: 216
Joined: Fri Sep 03, 2004 8:08 pm

Re: Tuscon Red Paint

Post by backyardrails » Sat Apr 04, 2020 9:40 am

Hi Carl and Steve
Thanks for the info. I might have to wait a while until everything clears up before going out.
Bernie

RONALD
Posts: 603
Joined: Sun Oct 26, 2003 7:27 am

Re: Tuscon Red Paint

Post by RONALD » Sat Apr 04, 2020 10:08 am

I use Rust Oleum 5200 Series Acrylic Paint #5277402 - Chestnut Brown.

Used it to paint steel rail, RRcars, and other items.

It is to my eyes Tuscon Red.

I buy it at MSC, but others may be less $$.
Screen Shot 2020-04-04 at 9.49.22 AM.png
UNADJUSTEDNONRAW_thumb_40b.jpg

User avatar
pat1027
Posts: 235
Joined: Sat Oct 09, 2004 3:45 pm
Location: Michigan

Re: Tuscon Red Paint

Post by pat1027 » Sun Apr 05, 2020 8:56 am

Model railroad suppliers carry Tuscan red though in 1-2 oz. bottles it would be expensive. It's enough to make a sample card and have some mixed. Most paint stores have a color analyzer.

I wanted box car red to paint a gondola. The off the shelf paints are good but I wanted a slight variation in the car colors. So I went for a true box car red, at least as close as I could get. Using a bottle of Floquil box car red I made a sample card and took it to the paint store. One of the issues I ran into was the color recipe the computer came back with called black in a smaller quantity than they could measure unless I wanted gallons. After a few stops I came away with a small can that was more than enough to paint the car.

Steve Bratina
Posts: 1055
Joined: Tue Jan 16, 2007 9:39 pm
Location: Cambridge Ontario

Re: Tuscon Red Paint

Post by Steve Bratina » Sun Apr 05, 2020 10:18 am

Hello,Bernie,
When you say you are redoing a CP engine and cars, I assume we are actually talking CP Maroon and not box car red? That is why I mentioned the Burgundy colour.

User avatar
backyardrails
Posts: 216
Joined: Fri Sep 03, 2004 8:08 pm

Re: Tuscon Red Paint

Post by backyardrails » Sun Apr 05, 2020 2:26 pm

Hi Steve
Yes, more of a CP Maroon. There is also diesel switcher that I want to repaint. I included 2 pictures of the type of colour I want. The paint on the engine has gadded over the years.
Bernie
Attachments
100_7343.JPG
65589976_10156628931391051_2350274501725388800_n.jpg

Steve Bratina
Posts: 1055
Joined: Tue Jan 16, 2007 9:39 pm
Location: Cambridge Ontario

Re: Tuscon Red Paint

Post by Steve Bratina » Sun Apr 05, 2020 4:23 pm

Krylon Burgundy would be my choice. They have a few other maroon style colours you could look at which might be more to your liking. I tend to use Krylon for both live steam and HO and really like the results.

User avatar
tsph6500
Posts: 1361
Joined: Fri Dec 03, 2004 3:38 pm
Location: West of Dunvegan, Ontario CANADA
Contact:

Re: Tuscon Red Paint

Post by tsph6500 » Mon Apr 13, 2020 11:32 am

Steve Bratina wrote:
Sat Apr 04, 2020 8:12 am
Using "can ready" stuff makes touch ups much easier and close enough is good enough for the girls we go out with. Jim might have some other suggestions as he probably deals with paints more than me.
Bernie,

Steve-o is absolutely correct when he says to avoid custom mix paint. Touch-ups are next-to-impossible. The paint will be more expensive as well.

Boxcars are usually red oxide, which can have great variations from red to orange to rust and a thousand shades in between. CPR Tuscan Red was not one of them. LOL

Check online for color samples at various retailers including industrial and agricultural suppliers. They have stuff you don't see at big box consumer stores like Home Depot, etc.
Best regards,
Jim Leggett

Montreal Live Steamers
www.montreallivesteamers.org

A Founding Member of the Tinkerbell Scale Society - Northern Division
I'm an A.R.S.E. (Association of Railroad Steam Engineers)
Toad Swamp & Punk Hollow Railroad - Head Tycoon
The Juvenile Traction Company - CEO & Apprentice Machinist 3rd Class
White Mountain Central RR - Engineer

User avatar
FLSTEAM
Posts: 1544
Joined: Sun Jan 05, 2003 10:55 am
Location: Central Florida
Contact:

Re: Tuscon Red Paint

Post by FLSTEAM » Mon Apr 13, 2020 11:56 am

Her is my Gon and Caboose both painted with ACE red primer and top coated with semi gloss urethane.

Looks Tuscon Red to me....

John B
Attachments
newgon.JPG
http://www.ngshay.com/
Shay drawings and castings

User avatar
backyardrails
Posts: 216
Joined: Fri Sep 03, 2004 8:08 pm

Re: Tuscon Red Paint

Post by backyardrails » Mon Apr 13, 2020 7:39 pm

Hi Everyone
while cleaning up today, I found a tin of Tuscan Red that was previously mixed at United Auto Parts paint department years ago. Sitting on a shelf thinking I had none left. I shook it up
and it's good to go.
Thanks for all your help.
Bernie Grow

Post Reply