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Re: weed killer

Post by Greg_Lewis » Tue May 05, 2020 1:17 pm

SteveM wrote:
Tue May 05, 2020 1:09 pm
pat1027 wrote:
Tue May 05, 2020 11:39 am
Any of the weed killers you can spray on your track are hazardous to your health. Some are less hazardous but they all come with safety precautions.
EVERYTHING has a health issue.

You drink too much water and it can kill you.

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Re: weed killer

Post by Andy R » Tue May 05, 2020 2:22 pm

OCME uses a product called Avenger (I checked with the guy who buys it):
www.avengerorganics.com/organic-weed-killer.html
It is not cheap, but it really works well and is approved by the city parks department.

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Re: weed killer

Post by Bill Shields » Tue May 05, 2020 3:13 pm

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Re: weed killer

Post by RONALD » Tue May 05, 2020 9:29 pm

Back in the 1980’s a friend of mine set up an xmas tree farm, he was using DuPont Oust, he bought me a container of the stuff.

I was then given all his chemicals when he died in 1993, have lotsa stuff with strange names on them, but I now have two containers of Oust, more than enough for many decades.

Besides using Roundup, I use Oust at 3 grams to the gallon it lasts the whole season.

Using 6 grams in a two gallon sprayer twice, is enough for the whole RR., and other places.

Takes awhile, but in a few weeks, little grows there.

It is now made by Bayer.

One should be carful not to let the stuff near open water it will damage aquatic plants, and of course, take all other precautions.

They used to spray this stuff from airplanes, drifting effected other crops, which brought on lawsuits for DuPont.



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Re: weed killer

Post by Glenn Brooks » Wed May 06, 2020 12:24 am

Depends on what kinds of weeds you are dealing with. One alternative is to use regular granulated weed and feed. The fertilizer causes the weeds in our area to grow so fast they deplete their nutrients and die- usually for the rest of the year.

Another method is buy a weed burner and a propane tank and torch em! This worked for me last year, until I turned around and saw that I had accidentally caught fire to my miniature bonsai forest , planted along the ROW. Not good.

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Re: weed killer

Post by Rwilliams » Wed May 06, 2020 2:28 am

Years ago I remembered seeing early color slides of late steam and wondered why the area next to the track was always burned black in the summer and rest of the year. Finally someone told me that the railroads used to use some monster weed burners to burn along the tracks with some special gasoline burning machines straight out of a Jules Verne themed movie. Gas was cheap enough that it was used for efficient week control each spring as the grasses began to dry out. Today many organic farming operations use carefully controlled flames to take care of their weed problems and nary a problem with any chemistry on the ground. I have found selective work with a hand held propane burner from Horror Freight hooked up to a small tank of propane to nip the early starting weeds when just little sprouts with good results. Keeps the weeds from ever going to seed and after a few years, the weed growth becomes less and less overtime as the seed production is eliminated each year.

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Re: weed killer

Post by pat1027 » Wed May 06, 2020 5:17 pm

SteveM wrote:
Tue May 05, 2020 1:09 pm
pat1027 wrote:
Tue May 05, 2020 11:39 am
Any of the weed killers you can spray on your track are hazardous to your health. Some are less hazardous but they all come with safety precautions.
EVERYTHING has a health issue.

You drink too much water and it can kill you.

Steve
The original posted asked weed killers were not dangerous to his health. While it is true that without herbicides and pesticides we couldn't feed the world. That Glysphosate is among the safest herbicides to use. That drinking too much water can kill you. All herbicides are hazardous. If drinking water were a valid comparison to herbicides, Patrick Moore would have taken a swallow Gyphosate instead of saying "I'm not stupid".

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Re: weed killer

Post by mattmason » Wed May 06, 2020 6:50 pm

Weed burner. No chemicals.
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Re: weed killer

Post by SteveM » Wed May 06, 2020 7:21 pm

pat1027 wrote:
Wed May 06, 2020 5:17 pm
The original posted asked weed killers were not dangerous to his health. While it is true that without herbicides and pesticides we couldn't feed the world. That Glysphosate is among the safest herbicides to use. That drinking too much water can kill you. All herbicides are hazardous. If drinking water were a valid comparison to herbicides, Patrick Moore would have taken a swallow Gyphosate instead of saying "I'm not stupid".
My point was that there is a risk to everything and we need to balance the risk with the reward.

There are some that think that "safe" is a switch that has just two positions.

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Re: weed killer

Post by rudd » Thu May 07, 2020 8:39 pm

Are those weed potions prototypical?
This looks like a bunch more fun.
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Re: weed killer

Post by Pontiacguy1 » Fri May 08, 2020 7:28 am

There are some tracks and some times when weed burning would not be a viable option. The railroads around here use a mixture of weed killers similar to what has been described above to keep their right-of-way cleared. If those weed potions had been available back 100 years ago, the railroads would no-doubt have used them then too.

A good solution for some may not work at all for others. Find the best solution for your particular application.

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Re: weed killer

Post by Bill Shields » Fri May 08, 2020 1:29 pm

mixing any of the above-mentioned chemicals with a 'dash of diesel' makes them more effective...or so I have heard! :lol: :shock:
Too many things going on to bother listing them.

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