Steam engine classification lights

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PeterCraymer
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Steam engine classification lights

Post by PeterCraymer » Wed Oct 01, 2014 2:32 pm

I would like to add classification lights to my 10-wheeler. I am trying to find the balance between victorian and modern style. I am not convinced which way to go.
I know of Cannonball and Flashers R Us sell the 4 lens Pyle National type.
Dave Mattox makes kerosene type and kerosene converted to electric (without chimneys but retain cylindrical body - 2 lenses).
I have seen a number of engines with 2 lens Pyle National type, but dont know where to find them.

What other suppliers are out there making them in any style? kits or RTR?

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Peter

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Re: Steam engine classification lights

Post by Pontiacguy1 » Wed Oct 01, 2014 4:08 pm

FAMC (Franklin Automatic Machine Co.) makes caboose lights, tender marker lights, and a couple of different styles of classification lights. The guy's name is Joe Ed Gaddes. His stuff is top-notch. I've got a set of his classification lights on my locomotive. They even come with brackets, although where I wanted to mount my lights, I had to fabricate my own brackets. Joe Ed is a Charter memeber of the Mid-South Live Steamers, and is located in Franklin, Tennessee. (615) 371-0697

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Re: Steam engine classification lights

Post by Andy Rafferty » Wed Oct 01, 2014 5:33 pm

Ditto. FAMC gets my vote.

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Re: Steam engine classification lights

Post by 110HLW » Wed Oct 01, 2014 6:00 pm

Pontiacguy1 -- how about a photo of your locomotive with the classification lights?

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Re: Steam engine classification lights

Post by Highiron » Wed Oct 01, 2014 10:29 pm

the Franklin automated machine company classification lamps and tender markers are on my lakawana Hudson here is a picture of them mounted to the front of the engine with the engine in the trailer you can see more detailed photographs of them under the post Lackawanna Hudson
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Re: Steam engine classification lights

Post by 765nkp » Wed Oct 01, 2014 10:42 pm

Wow, looks awesome Mike.

Corey the markers on Zach's Mikado are from Joe Ed. They are really nice. I also bought a set to put on our Berkshire and my 2-6-6-2.

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Re: Steam engine classification lights

Post by kenrinc » Thu Oct 02, 2014 1:57 am

I made the markers for my Kozo A3. Admittedly, these are early turn of the century, Pennsy practice but gives you an idea of what can be done with a few hours in the shop. I used the drawings in Joe Nelson's book as well as some original drawings as a "rough" reference. They are turned from solid.

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Re: Steam engine classification lights

Post by John_S » Thu Oct 02, 2014 8:33 am

Pontiacguy1 wrote:FAMC... Joe Ed is a Charter memeber of the Mid-South Live Steamers, and is located in Franklin, Tennessee. (615) 371-0697
I bought a pair of lamps from him at the MSLS spring meet this year and put them on my mogul. They are top-notch quality and work great. They even rotate, with detents, 180deg so you can swap from clear to green without taking anything apart. I too did not use his brackets (nothing wrong with them) because my lamps are mounted to the smokebox itself and not the door.

Not done with the wiring yet... still trying to finish new siderods, then I'll get back to these:
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Re: Steam engine classification lights

Post by Pontiacguy1 » Thu Oct 02, 2014 11:05 am

Pictures of the lamps on my locomotive.
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marker lights on 989

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Re: Steam engine classification lights

Post by cbrew » Thu Oct 02, 2014 11:28 am

Hi Peter,
I am sure you have already seen want i am running.
but here it is again 8)
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If it is not live steam. its not worth it.

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Re: Steam engine classification lights

Post by makinsmoke » Thu Oct 02, 2014 2:04 pm

I do not remember who makes the lanterns Cannonball sells but I bought a pair of their CNC lamps a few years ago.

They bolt on with a hollow 1/4-20 bolt. Mounted them on my waycar (caboose). It subsequently sustained a stiff-arm to prevent it from drilling Harry Bean's 3420 and landed on its side, and the marker.

Other than some paint the lamp sustained no damage.

I was relieved, and impressed, in that order.

BryteRails sells lamps also:
http://www.bryterails.com/index.htm?p=p107

The 1-1/2" locomotive markers electrified well resemble the marker lamps on many Santa Fe steam engines.
They were round, boxy looking things with two lenses, and a round fixture on the rear facing the cab to hold spare lenses.

Here is the prototype on ATSF 940 in Bartlesville:
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Note the bracket, which also had a provision for a flag.

Brian

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Re: Steam engine classification lights

Post by Greg_Lewis » Fri Oct 03, 2014 10:13 am

Here's a shot of the Adlake 187 1/2 class lamp and one of the Handlan. If anyone is inclined to make his own, send me a PM as I've got more pix and measurements. The lens is 5 3/8 diameter. Here are some links:

http://www.railroadiana.org/lamps/pgLamps.php

http://s1189.photobucket.com/user/Wayba ... a.jpg.html

Here's the Adlake catalog from 1907: http://www.railroadiana.org/library/pgC ... Engine.php

Adams and Westlake still makes new markers (in Massachusetts, its pronounced "mahkahs."): http://adlake.com/online-store.html
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