The old Iron Horse has a pinion for the pedal start, but no pedal. I noticed the pinion turned freely, so I decided to take it off to see if it was missing some sprags for a clutch, etc.
Nope, its accurately bored for the shaft. Must have been tightened on by a different pulley and nut.
I don't see how a rigid pinion would ever let the sector of the pedal back past the pinion after starting, unless it were clutched so the crankshaft could "over-run" it.
Anyone care to explain this to the dummy?
I checked out the ASECC site, and others, no info on this. So far Smok Stak bbs hasn't panned out either, I think I must be asking too stupid a question.......
Kick starter question....
Moderator: Harold_V
Re: Kick starter question....
Any chance the pedal and it's gear sector was designed to stay down once kicked to the ground if the engine started. It could be raised again and turn the engine over backwards if the engine didn't start, or after it was shut down if it did start. I don't know anything about this particular engine, but in my dim memory of my childhood I seem to remember a friend that had an old engine that started like that. Bill
Re: Kick starter question....
Could be, but I think that it had a spring return. There is a boss that may be for one.
The pic didn't attach, but is here
http://img4.photobucket.com/albums/0803 ... otor2s.jpg
The pic didn't attach, but is here
http://img4.photobucket.com/albums/0803 ... otor2s.jpg
Re: Kick starter question....
Cushman motorscooter engines used a sector linked to the pedal so that it would swing out to engage the pinion. Pedal stayed at bottom while running. When lifted by hand to start the sector would drag the pinion but the links allowed it to move out of engagement. Hope this helps.
Don Young
Re: Kick starter question....
Well, what actually happens, now that I have the parts, is that a spring pulls back the sector, which rotates the starter gear backwards on the shaft. No problem, unless the engine kicks back, in which case it flips the pedal up mighty fast and hard.
Backwards rotation "unwinds" the starter grip spring, and allows the pinion to rotate backwards. Forwards, it grips a bit like a chinese finger puzzle, so it is a "mechanical rectifier".
Backwards rotation "unwinds" the starter grip spring, and allows the pinion to rotate backwards. Forwards, it grips a bit like a chinese finger puzzle, so it is a "mechanical rectifier".
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Iron Horse... Kickstarter? Rings a bell
Seems like I saw something on that somewhere...
Iron Horse Model X420 Kick Start Gas Motor NR Item number: 3840980529
Must have been on ebay... where else.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... 80529&rd=1
Iron Horse Model X420 Kick Start Gas Motor NR Item number: 3840980529
Must have been on ebay... where else.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... 80529&rd=1
BP 2j vs, SB lathe, W& S #4 Turret lathe, Maho 600P
Wheee....the shipping is more than
what the thing is worth, max. I just bought a complete one for less than the sum of the shipping and the $9 listed there.