Question to anyone . . . does burner tube size vary or are all Al's burners made using 1/2" EMT?
Propane Burner options
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GWRdriver
Nashville TN
Nashville TN
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I suspect (?) all of Al's burners were made with the same 1/2" EMT.
All that I have seen used that size, from the 0-4-0 to the Challenger.
Someone here might be able to dispute my response. Educational.
RussN
All that I have seen used that size, from the 0-4-0 to the Challenger.
Someone here might be able to dispute my response. Educational.
RussN
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for the record, I used 1/2 npt black pipe, machined hex plugs and Tig welded to the ends, I was able to set the tubes with my impact.
If it is not live steam. its not worth it.
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Chris, can you give me the tube diameter, spacing between the tube and if possible hole diameter and spacing between holes. I have started on converting the Yellowstone to propane and your burner is the same size I will need. If you could also take a picture of the burner upside-down so I can see how the mixing tube is connected to the manifold.
Thanks so much!
Dave
Thanks so much!
Dave
Dave Workman
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Morning Dave,NP5002 wrote: ↑Mon May 01, 2023 9:17 am Chris, can you give me the tube diameter, spacing between the tube and if possible hole diameter and spacing between holes. I have started on converting the Yellowstone to propane and your burner is the same size I will need. If you could also take a picture of the burner upside-down so I can see how the mixing tube is connected to the manifold.
Thanks so much!
Dave
I just looked and i really do not have a good picture of the final design, due to frame constraints, I have the mixer tube feeding from the front center.
the tubes are 1/2 black pipe. as for spacing, I just equalized the space between which is about ~.300
If it is not live steam. its not worth it.
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Attached are pics and .pdfs of the original Al VonReuden docs.
He built many of these burners for Pacific NW steamer locomotives, including my Mikado.
RussN
He built many of these burners for Pacific NW steamer locomotives, including my Mikado.
RussN
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Thank you Chris and Russ but I should have said Chris Hollands. The burner AL made for him I think will be perfect for the Yellowstone. I have read all the plan's for Al's burner but just thought I would cheat and ask Chris Hollands for his detentions. It does make a difference on hole diameter and spacing. I've already built two burns from Lindsey's design for my Pacific and Dads Northern but would like to try Al's design for the Yellowstone.
Thanks: Dave
Thanks: Dave
Dave Workman
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Fine then ,,, hows life been?? I hope to get over there sometime this year
If it is not live steam. its not worth it.
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Russ, is the propane inlet section a part that was made or bought then welded to the distribution manifold?
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Al Von Rueden fabricated all of his parts from scratch! The tapered mixing tube would be a challenge for me. Al was a Master Craftsman.
Chris Brew's use of commercial plumbing parts looks like an excellent and easier solution for us to make those burners.
His burner certainly works as needed.
Russ
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How about something like this?
https://www.amazon.com/Stanbroil-Liquid ... =8-74&th=1
https://www.amazon.com/Stanbroil-Liquid ... =8-74&th=1