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Bessmer and Lake Erie 643 is Finally Safe

Postby SOO2719 » Mon Aug 05, 2019 10:24 am

Bessemer and Lake Erie 643, a 2-10-4 Texas-type locomotive which has been in limbo for years, is finally safe (article is not behind paywall):

http://trn.trains.com/news/news-wire/2019/08/05-age-of-steam-acquires-ble-2-10-4

About time if you ask me.
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Re: Bessmer and Lake Erie 643 is Finally Safe

Postby Millhouse » Mon Aug 05, 2019 5:46 pm

Saw that this morning. Was wondering if they'll do anything beyond a static resto, but I began to think about the AOS in general... all of Jerry's 4 OCRR locomotives are stored there aren't they? Are they all just static displays now, or do they run?

Obviously, now it's a very public museum. :) But I actually am not even 100% sure what Jerry was going to do with that facility before he passed. He kept it under lock and key from the public - his property and choice, of course, but I do remember the website talking about doing local revenue (can't remember if passenger or freight or both) runs.

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Re: Bessmer and Lake Erie 643 is Finally Safe

Postby Millhouse » Tue Aug 06, 2019 9:32 am

Someone shared this on Facebook, year unknown (though I think it's probably 90s).

643 Operating Under Her Own Power
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xClGOdkJji4&lc=z23nv1crwvfwj5o4u04t1aokgeh5ansgx1dbqywfqkmfrk0h00410.1565045864001122&fbclid=IwAR1SoVwtgXpQPNtb9Gd2AbG_UCtQjEwmxwVcVuOtNayc0eqqkTVFb7axD9s&app=desktop

Again, I don't know the year, but this answers a question I've had for 20 years since that general time... did it ever run even short distances? This video answers that question. At first I wondered if it was being pushed or on compressed air, the audio is kind of strange at first, but soon you realize the locomotive is definitely running solo.
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Re: Bessmer and Lake Erie 643 is Finally Safe

Postby Al_Seever » Tue Aug 06, 2019 10:20 am

Thanks for sharing the good news. This will be a big move.

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Re: Bessmer and Lake Erie 643 is Finally Safe

Postby Fitz » Tue Aug 06, 2019 5:18 pm

It will be interesting to see how they move it, as it is "landlocked" on it's own short rails with no connection to railroads. It will take some mighty big trucks.
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Re: Bessmer and Lake Erie 643 is Finally Safe

Postby tom c » Wed Aug 07, 2019 10:58 am

Fritz, I too am interested in how they move it out. Maybe take the boiler off the frame or if they have RR connections, build a track to connect temporarily.

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Re: Bessmer and Lake Erie 643 is Finally Safe

Postby Mark D » Wed Aug 07, 2019 1:55 pm

Trains has already killed the link to it. Or maybe I have to sign up to read? I get the magazine, that's enough. If the B&LE 643 is safe, that's good enough for me.
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Re: Bessmer and Lake Erie 643 is Finally Safe

Postby John Bohon » Wed Aug 07, 2019 6:39 pm

I look for this one to move by rail. As I recall 643 is sitting beside a double track mainline. It would seem possible to spot a heavy duty flatcar beside 643 on the closest mainline and with appropriate roadway protection crane the engine onto the flatcar. Passing trains could be routed down the second track. Then the 643 could be moved very slowly to a point to be properly secured to the car. CSX may also agree to move the engine on its wheels a short distance to a safe loading area. I think 643 is a plain bearing engine so I doubt the second option will happen. Moving an engine this large by road from the area it is in will be difficult but of course is not impossible. The pieces just have to be made small enough. AOS seems to have a good relationship with the railroads so I think they can negotiate something making a rail move possible. I have to admit I would like to be a part of this move. It should be an interesting undertaking
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Re: Bessmer and Lake Erie 643 is Finally Safe

Postby Charles T. McCullough » Thu Aug 08, 2019 12:20 pm

Anyone have a close approximation of just where this engine presently resides? (Nearby streets, lat/lon, etc.) I have followed several tracks through McKees Rocks PA but cannot find an engine beside any tracks (not that it is that easy to recognize a steamer from the top... until someone points it out, then it is easy).
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Re: Bessmer and Lake Erie 643 is Finally Safe

Postby tom c » Fri Aug 09, 2019 3:24 pm

Charles. Try megabass of america inc and look to the east i think. It is in the bottoms area. There is a track with a boxcar on it that has the engine on it

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Re: Bessmer and Lake Erie 643 is Finally Safe

Postby Charles T. McCullough » Fri Aug 09, 2019 5:27 pm

That's it! Thanks Tom C.

40°28'15.24"N, 80° 3'25.54"W

Looks like it is on the property of "AGF Company, a division of Perl Enterprises Inc.", Cleaning products Supplier, 101 Munson Ave. -- according to the clicking on the little square icon on Google Earth. It is barely visible from Munson Ave in Street View.
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Re: Bessmer and Lake Erie 643 is Finally Safe

Postby Millhouse » Mon Aug 12, 2019 12:57 am

Definitely landlocked. Though close to the mainline right next to it. About 80 feet if the scale on google maps is to be trusted.


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